This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Quite the ringing endorsement from Dr. Kuritzkes. Take a 4th or 5th shot because "It's better than nothing".
Where do I sign up ?
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“We could see a lot of COVID in the winter,” said Dr. Daniel Kuritzkes, chief of the Division of Infectious Diseases at Brigham and Women’s Hospital. But he notes that people who got the new boosters had more antibodies to BQ.1.1 than those who only received the original boosters. “So it’s better than nothing.”
So far, COVID cases don’t seem to be rising, but scientists aren’t sure if that will last. And several studies suggest that new booster shots don’t trigger strong immunity to the new variant.
The elementary mistake you make is lazily combining all other vaccine modalities into one
The elementary, dishonest "mistake" you make, even in the previous page, is calling people antivaxxers when, like Covidiocy clearly stated, they are not against vaccination in general, only against the COVID vaccine.
You don’t get to claim to be “evidenced based” or whatever and “not an antivaxxer” and then cover your ears and babble over the overwhelming evidence that COVID mRNA vaccines are very good and not at all an outlier in efficacy or safety among approved and enthusiastically used vaccines. So yeah, you’re both antivaxxers. Cheers.
The elementary mistake you make is lazily combining all other vaccine modalities into one. The diversity among vaccine (excluding mRNA) mechanisms of action is greater than the mechanistic distance from mRNA to the centroid of preexisting modalities.
Source: I made it up but it’s true. Unsubstantiated terror about mRNA vaccines is exclusively based in misunderstandings of college-level biology. Stop worrying and love the shot, brother.
Wow, no $hit Sherlock. Thanks for the treatise on, well, pretty much nothing beyond the obvious. Centroid? Lol. Doesn’t really have application here. I’m surprised you didn’t “leverage” the equally useless “fulcrum.”
The mRNA vectors are so bad at accomplishing what they were originally intended to that now they are being tailored to target the spine helix. Which actually makes some sense. Not as much sense as nasal vaccines but better than spike.
So we agree that there is nothing remarkable about the MoA of the mRNA vaccines, especially concerning safety or efficacy or, uh, innate Vaccineness that must be satirized. That’s a big admission from you! You were kind of rude but, hey, I’ll take it — welcome to the good side, brother.
Centroid is an important distance measurement in clustering operations. We learned this in my systems bio class.
Quite the ringing endorsement from Dr. Kuritzkes. Take a 4th or 5th shot because "It's better than nothing".
Where do I sign up ?
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“We could see a lot of COVID in the winter,” said Dr. Daniel Kuritzkes, chief of the Division of Infectious Diseases at Brigham and Women’s Hospital. But he notes that people who got the new boosters had more antibodies to BQ.1.1 than those who only received the original boosters. “So it’s better than nothing.”
Boston Globe has been among the very worst newspapers reporting 'rona, though it's alone in that Hall of Shame: the Philadelphia Inquirer is abysmal, predictably blaming the widespread rejection of baby-toddler vax and boosters on "racism"... until it became irrefutable that NOBODY wanted or needed that crap, so they dropped the issue.
The New York Times is beneath contempt for their lockdown, masking, "cases" and school closure cheerleading...
Weird tho' they did so little follow-up on all those "case" where ever kid was perfectly fine two days later.
This thread is a 300 page snapshot of what we are seeing taking place in the US. It is a political party that is demonizing expertise and education and celebrating ignorance. This thread is proof positive that it is working.
There is literature on "cultural cognition" and how it relates to partisanship. See for instance Dan Kahan from Yale. What's a little strange about the current situation is that historically the prototypical vaccine "skeptics" have been associated with the political left (e.g. Kennedy and the Children's Health Defense Fund) and the prototypical climate change "skeptics" have been the political right's domain.
The current wave of vaccine skepticism on the right seems to be driven by an individual liberty rational, which is a coherent position in so far as it goes, but the discussion always goes back to questioning the fundamental science. This, I think, is because rejecting or discounting the benefit side is simpler and more comfortable than making a serious attempt to objectively balance individual liberties and public health policy on incomplete data.
the discussion always goes back to questioning the fundamental science.
I hope that within the next 10 years, an mRNA generated abnormal protein in your body does not cause you to develop a vaccine induced case of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.
the discussion always goes back to questioning the fundamental science.
I hope that within the next 10 years, an mRNA generated abnormal protein in your body does not cause you to develop a vaccine induced case of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.
Happy Thanksgiving.
The same protein that COVID makes your body systemically express for weeks?
Do you know what the causative agent in CJD is?
This is bottom tier DanM posting. Stick telling us how many people are alive please.
the discussion always goes back to questioning the fundamental science.
I hope that within the next 10 years, an mRNA generated abnormal protein in your body does not cause you to develop a vaccine induced case of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Thanks DanM, I'm sure your credentials from the University of Gateway Pundit, the institute of B!tchute, and the Youtube centre for medical studies will persuade people that your warnings are to be taken very seriously.
This thread is a 300 page snapshot of what we are seeing taking place in the US. It is a political party that is demonizing expertise and education and celebrating ignorance. This thread is proof positive that it is working.
There is literature on "cultural cognition" and how it relates to partisanship. See for instance Dan Kahan from Yale. What's a little strange about the current situation is that historically the prototypical vaccine "skeptics" have been associated with the political left (e.g. Kennedy and the Children's Health Defense Fund) and the prototypical climate change "skeptics" have been the political right's domain.
The current wave of vaccine skepticism on the right seems to be driven by an individual liberty rational, which is a coherent position in so far as it goes, but the discussion always goes back to questioning the fundamental science. This, I think, is because rejecting or discounting the benefit side is simpler and more comfortable than making a serious attempt to objectively balance individual liberties and public health policy on incomplete data.
91% of parents in NYC have rejected baby - toddler rona vax...
91% of the 50% of kids 5-12 who got fear mongered into vax have rejected boosters.
Explain that politically? Remember, this NYC and even if we agree the greatest "ideology" is in fact apathy...
Even a large majority of party line Dems have said eff you to the media and government "experts" (sic).
And speaking of "experts"-- how could a clown like Peter Hotez have been wrong, repeatedly, about everything re: kids and 'rona a s yet still be given mass media platforms?
The authoritarian, anti-science "left" has as much to answer for as any fatso denialist.
The elementary, dishonest "mistake" you make, even in the previous page, is calling people antivaxxers when, like Covidiocy clearly stated, they are not against vaccination in general, only against the COVID vaccine.
You don’t get to claim to be “evidenced based” or whatever and “not an antivaxxer” and then cover your ears and babble over the overwhelming evidence that COVID mRNA vaccines are very good and not at all an outlier in efficacy or safety among approved and enthusiastically used vaccines. So yeah, you’re both antivaxxers. Cheers.
So if Covidiocy hates black people he is racist. But if he hates one black person he is also racist, according to your logic? You don't get to define what an antivaxxer is when you are dishonest about it.
And by the way, I am fully vaccinated. So yeah, you're an idiot. Cheers.
This thread is a 300 page snapshot of what we are seeing taking place in the US. It is a political party that is demonizing expertise and education and celebrating ignorance. This thread is proof positive that it is working.
There is literature on "cultural cognition" and how it relates to partisanship. See for instance Dan Kahan from Yale. What's a little strange about the current situation is that historically the prototypical vaccine "skeptics" have been associated with the political left (e.g. Kennedy and the Children's Health Defense Fund) and the prototypical climate change "skeptics" have been the political right's domain.
The current wave of vaccine skepticism on the right seems to be driven by an individual liberty rational, which is a coherent position in so far as it goes, but the discussion always goes back to questioning the fundamental science. This, I think, is because rejecting or discounting the benefit side is simpler and more comfortable than making a serious attempt to objectively balance individual liberties and public health policy on incomplete data.
Maybe the fact that the jab has proved to be neither safe not effective and the fact Govt and Big Pharma have lied every step of the way explains the growing vaccine hesitancy.
Background: Postmarketing evaluations have linked myocarditis to SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines. We sought to estimate the incidence of myocarditis after mRNA vaccination against SARS-CoV-2, and to compare the incidence with expect...
