Official Russia vs Ukraine War Thread

Lollys Master wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

You are the one who supported the overthrow of the Ukraine govt in 2014 and NATO breaking its promises to Russia that made this war inevitable.

Not me

It fascinates me how people turn a blind eye to the fact, that it was clear what consequences all the EU, NATO, Ukrainian and Russian actions would have. Putin (and many political scientists) been talking about it for almost a decade.

Yet nobody reached out to Russia with diplomacy. And now we sit on the verge of worldwide collapse and wonder how this came to be.

Feels kinda like "controlled demolition" of current world system, to be honest. Along with Covid, climate change measures and Chinese financial collapse nothing stands in the way of the New World Order 2030 :)

Lollys Master wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

You are the one who supported the overthrow of the Ukraine govt in 2014 and NATO breaking its promises to Russia that made this war inevitable.

Not me

It fascinates me how people turn a blind eye to the fact, that it was clear what consequences all the EU, NATO, Ukrainian and Russian actions would have. Putin (and many political scientists) been talking about it for almost a decade.

Yet nobody reached out to Russia with diplomacy. And now we sit on the verge of worldwide collapse and wonder how this came to be.

Feels kinda like "controlled demolition" of current world system, to be honest. Along with Covid, climate change measures and Chinese financial collapse nothing stands in the way of the New World Order 2030 :)

carmine9 wrote:

No threads about Israel killing thousands of kids are allowed.

Note this on another thread and its "off topic".

Catch-22

carmine9 wrote:

my 2c wrote:

Um, because you're a raging anti-Semite and the mods are sick of your crap? Just a guess.

So noting Israel has killed far more innocent kids than has Russia -- an indisputable fact -- and that the US gov gives Israel tens of billions of $ while giving tens of billions of $ for weapons to be used against Russia -- is not allowed if someone calls you an anti-semite?

Why is that?

Lollys Master wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

You are the one who supported the overthrow of the Ukraine govt in 2014 and NATO breaking its promises to Russia that made this war inevitable.

Not me

It fascinates me how people turn a blind eye to the fact, that it was clear what consequences all the EU, NATO, Ukrainian and Russian actions would have. Putin (and many political scientists) been talking about it for almost a decade.

Yet nobody reached out to Russia with diplomacy. And now we sit on the verge of worldwide collapse and wonder how this came to be.

Feels kinda like "controlled demolition" of current world system, to be honest. Along with Covid, climate change measures and Chinese financial collapse nothing stands in the way of the New World Order 2030 :)

carmine9 wrote:

IgnoreJimmyDore wrote:

Maybe because it has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. If you want to post things about Israel and Palestine and this site won't let you, I implore you to find another site that is more tolerant of your views. Until then, just admit that you are a hypocrite that supports Russia killing innocent civilians in Ukraine.

Or maybe because it is a strategy used to disallow any factual truthful criticism of one nation and one nation only, Israel

agip wrote:

Just a note: Biden has almost completely ended the drone wars. He won't claim much credit because voters won't reward this kind of thing and the Rs will say 'ha pinko weak boy no backbone!' but this is a big change in US policy that hardly anyone knows about.

Credit to Joe.

Link:theweek.com/foreign-policy/1007579/bid...

Real1 wrote:

Link:www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/4yea...

Lollys Master wrote:

Very "European" standards in Ukraine. Call somebody a traitor and then kill them with a headshot, without court procedures or what not. That's a second politician, that was murdered this way.

Ukraine is super corrupt and has no place in the EU.

Link:ukrainetoday.org/2022/08/28/collaborat...

Term1 wrote:

Russian propaganda trolls will face war crimes charges..

Ernest wrote:

Term1 wrote:

Russian propaganda trolls will face war crimes charges..

How do you define "Russian Propaganda troll"?

Because a lot of folks who don't accept every Ukraine statement as Gospel have been labelled one.

Do they need to be paid? Professional? Russian?

Do we include everyone documenting or expressing opinion on misdeeds or non-truths aside from Russia's?

What might the penalty be? Execution? Gulags???

Ernest wrote:

Term1 wrote:

Russian propaganda trolls will face war crimes charges..

How do you define "Russian Propaganda troll"?

Because a lot of folks who don't accept every Ukraine statement as Gospel have been labelled one.

Do they need to be paid? Professional? Russian?

Do we include everyone documenting or expressing opinion on misdeeds or non-truths aside from Russia's?

What might the penalty be? Execution? Gulags???