Gotta wonder how much this search mission has cost taxpayers
Agencies like the Coast Guard are on duty anyway. The cost isn't much different than if they were doing training and patrolling, which they would be doing anyway.
The groups (mostly private?) bringing their submersible remote operated vehicles love nothing better to have something to do to play with their toys (legitimate research tools, but yes, they see them as fun toys too). They get a kick out of helping out, and I'm sure the group that found the debris field of the Titan is glad they came even with no reimbursement. It's a worthy operation along the lines of whatever else they use their ROVs for.
It's the same for people who volunteer for search and rescue. They get a sense of excitement (a type of fun) satisfaction, and perhaps duty doing it because they (the volunteer type anyway) aren't getting paid.
Coast Guard is not usually that far away from shore. This is time taken away from the war on drugs.
Gotta wonder how much this search mission has cost taxpayers
This comes up with every search and rescue mission. The answer is probably nobody knows. In fact some search and rescue missions actually save the tax payer money.
Back when I lived in Britain many mountain rescue missions involved the RAF. Someone started complaining about the cost and the RAF responded that it saves them money on training. If the RAF were to set up an extraction training exercise they would have to deploy soldiers in some remote location, get a few of them to pretend to be injured and then go in and "find" them and then "rescue" them. With civilians conveniently falling of a ridge in Snowdonia and breaking their leg, all the set up costs were free.
I know this situation is a lot different to hikers getting into accidents. But it does allow the Military to check out a lot of expensive hardware - a lot of which may be prototypes - and see what stuff lives up to its billing and what is just marketing BS. I imagine the value of the Canadian submersible that found the wreckage has just gone through the roof.
Not only does this event test the capability of the equipment, it also tests the ability of the companies to get their act together on get their stuff on site quickly. Much better than a planned demo set for 1st August of the coast of Florida in a clearly marked area.
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Gotta wonder how much this search mission has cost taxpayers
This comes up with every search and rescue mission. The answer is probably nobody knows. In fact some search and rescue missions actually save the tax payer money.
Back when I lived in Britain many mountain rescue missions involved the RAF. Someone started complaining about the cost and the RAF responded that it saves them money on training. If the RAF were to set up an extraction training exercise they would have to deploy soldiers in some remote location, get a few of them to pretend to be injured and then go in and "find" them and then "rescue" them. With civilians conveniently falling of a ridge in Snowdonia and breaking their leg, all the set up costs were free.
I know this situation is a lot different to hikers getting into accidents. But it does allow the Military to check out a lot of expensive hardware - a lot of which may be prototypes - and see what stuff lives up to its billing and what is just marking BS. I imagine the value of the Canadian submersible that found the wreckage has just gone through the roof.
Not only does this event test the capability of the equipment, it also tests the ability of the companies to get their act together on get their stuff on site quickly. Much better than a planned demo set for 1st August of the coast of Florida in a clearly marked area.
Governments waste TRILLIONS of dollars. These rescue operations are one of the very few things governments can spend money on that serve a useful purpose and do more good than harm.
- tail cone from the submarine found 400meters from Titanic
- 9 vessels on the scene, ROVs in water,
- no timeline when operations would stop - they didn't detect any explosion for the past 76 hours when sonar buoys were deployed. The explosion would generate massive waves which buoys would pick up.
To me it is a miracle that they could find it in this area. And how they could mobilize so much speliciazed equipment from many different countries in such a short time
Gotta wonder how much this search mission has cost taxpayers
Gotta wonder how much this search mission has cost taxpayers
This comes up with every search and rescue mission. The answer is probably nobody knows. In fact some search and rescue missions actually save the tax payer money.
Back when I lived in Britain many mountain rescue missions involved the RAF. Someone started complaining about the cost and the RAF responded that it saves them money on training. If the RAF were to set up an extraction training exercise they would have to deploy soldiers in some remote location, get a few of them to pretend to be injured and then go in and "find" them and then "rescue" them. With civilians conveniently falling of a ridge in Snowdonia and breaking their leg, all the set up costs were free.
I know this situation is a lot different to hikers getting into accidents. But it does allow the Military to check out a lot of expensive hardware - a lot of which may be prototypes - and see what stuff lives up to its billing and what is just marketing BS. I imagine the value of the Canadian submersible that found the wreckage has just gone through the roof.
Not only does this event test the capability of the equipment, it also tests the ability of the companies to get their act together on get their stuff on site quickly. Much better than a planned demo set for 1st August of the coast of Florida in a clearly marked area.
Indeed, the RAF should be encouraging more billionaires to go on risky ego trips to get free real-life training scenarios.
I ask readers on here to today, think about the seven Marines and one Sailor who died 37 months ago off the coast of California when Amtrak sank. CNN didn't pay much attention to said Marines & Sailors 37 months ago.
Interesting tidbit - it seems that the US Navy knew what happened days ago. The SOSUS anti-submarine acoustic network detected a sound consistent with a pressure hull implosion on the day Titan began its dive. This fact and geo-location data was shared with the search and rescue operation and that likely explains why the debris field was found so quickly. I also imagine that is why the US government vetoed the UK sending equipment. It would have taken many days to arrive and it was already too late.
SOSUS capabilities are very highly classified. It took several days to determine how to get the data to the right people in a secure fashion without giving away any deep secrets.
The U.S. Navy detected the sound of the missing Titanic tourist submersible imploding shortly after it was reported missing, a senior Naval official told The Wall Street Journal.
