I ran NYC on two bad calves which got a lot worse in the course of it. Time to heal. Plenty of time to run after I am 100%.
At least I have raced in the last month.
I ran NYC on two bad calves which got a lot worse in the course of it. Time to heal. Plenty of time to run after I am 100%.
At least I have raced in the last month.
The Riot wrote:
Seriously Disappointed In Today's Adults wrote:
I'm just waiting until all of you realize he is completely joking around, and literally tagged the thread #trashtalktuesday . He's just making funny jokes sometimes off funny stereotypes. He's not being serious. Grow up.
Generally if someone wants to make funny jokes in public like this, they should at least be, you know, funny, or else they end up looking like an idiot.
My thirteen year old thought it was hilarious.
is this guy 12?
jk he's 25 like the rest of BYU because the NCAA gives preferential treatment to cults and the only reason they are any good.
nofacetimber wrote:
Look at your own state wrote:
Utah has the highest consumption of pornography per capita in the United States and a MASSIVE opioid problem.
Oh yeah? Interesting claim so I thought I would check. According to a 2016 report, the most recent and reputable I could find, by the largest pornography website in the nation and world, Utah ranked 38th.
"In 2015 we recorded 16 visits per capita from Utah visitors. That’s half of the 32 visits per capita we got from the nation’s capital of D.C., and puts Utah in 38th place nation-wide."
Looking at recent data for opioid deaths per capita. Utah trails at least 20 states.
https://www.drugabuse.gov/drugs-abuse/opioids/opioid-summaries-by-stateThe nation has a MASSIVE opioid problem. Utah is not distinguished in that regard.
Look, from reading through this thread, it's obvious you're a byu fan. You want to defend your school/state. That's fine and great. What you need to take into account is that all those byu guys are strange/do weird stuff. You also graduate 26 year olds commonly. I'd suggest moving out of Utah for a few years to realize what a bubble you live in. You'll find out really quick that the entitled attitude that Utah has engrained in you does not fly. People don't even hold the door open for each other in Utah. You'll find that the dishonesty that mormons typically apply to business/life gets called out really fast outside of the Beehive State. Just ask Henry Marsh. People in Utah are just angry. The porn problem has previously been mentioned. The suicide rate in Utah is also the 5th highest in the nation. I think what the overwhelming majority of the posters here are probably thinking is, don't point out the disparities of others when your house is far from clean.
yup, just a 23-year old sophomore lol
The only thing more lame than someone trash-talking into the void on Twitter is, predictably, this thread.
PC HS wrote:
Look, from reading through this thread, it's obvious you're a byu fan. You want to defend your school/state. That's fine and great. What you need to take into account is that all those byu guys are strange/do weird stuff. You also graduate 26 year olds commonly.I'd suggest moving out of Utah for a few years to realize what a bubble you live in. You'll find out really quick that the entitled attitude that Utah has engrained in you does not fly.People don't even hold the door open for each other in Utah.You'll find that the dishonesty that mormons typically apply to business/life gets called out really fast outside of the Beehive State.Just ask Henry Marsh. People in Utah are just angry. The porn problem has previously been mentioned. The suicide rate in Utah is also the 5th highest in the nation.I think what the overwhelming majority of the posters here are probably thinking is, don't point out the disparities of others when your house is far from clean.
A fan I may be, but more importantly as you rightly said I aim to combat the unwarranted flood of misinformation and slander out there directed at the school, religion, and state.
You talk as if you are certain that I've never lived outside of Utah. That's a rush to judgment if I've ever seen one.
I think you are spot on with what the majority of posters here are thinking. I think that they also rush to condemn and judge without taking things into context.
#TrashTalkTuesday as the runner in question called it. Was a fun and creative way to take a jab at the other competition who made it to nationals before the big day. Trash talk and banter is nothing new among athletes. At the end of the day the vast majority of these athletes respect each other.
If you were to look at this athletes likes on twitter you would see that he likes posts from other cross country programs who could be considered rivals. He's supportive of and shows respect to these programs and their achievements. Instead of having a laugh and treating it like the levity that it is. Posters are act as if he is insulting their honor. And feel the need to bash everything associated with him. Not with an air of lightheartedness mind you, but heavy with derision.
Your accusations claiming dishonesty by members of this particular religion remind me of a talk I once heard that has had a big impact on me in my life. Here's an excerpt:
"Some 30 years ago, while working in the corporate world, some business associates and I were passing through O’Hare Airport in Chicago, Illinois. One of these men had just sold his company for tens of millions of dollars—in other words, he was not poor.
As we were passing a newspaper vending machine, this individual put a quarter in the machine, opened the door to the stack of papers inside the machine, and began dispensing unpaid-for newspapers to each of us. When he handed me a newspaper, I put a quarter in the machine and, trying not to offend but to make a point, jokingly said, “Jim, for 25 cents I can maintain my integrity. A dollar, questionable, but 25 cents—no, not for 25 cents.” You see, I remembered well the experience of three towels and a broken-down 1941 Hudson. A few minutes later we passed the same newspaper vending machine. I noticed that Jim had broken away from our group and was stuffing quarters in the vending machine. I tell you this incident not to portray myself as an unusual example of honesty, but only to emphasize the lessons of three towels and a 25-cent newspaper.
There will never be honesty in the business world, in the schools, in the home, or anyplace else until there is honesty in the heart."
Honesty is very important to me and I consider it one of the tenants of my faith.
ok boomer
PC HS wrote:
Look, from reading through this thread, it's obvious you're a byu fan. You want to defend your school/state. That's fine and great. What you need to take into account is that all those byu guys are strange/do weird stuff. You also graduate 26 year olds commonly. I'd suggest moving out of Utah for a few years to realize what a bubble you live in. You'll find out really quick that the entitled attitude that Utah has engrained in you does not fly. People don't even hold the door open for each other in Utah. You'll find that the dishonesty that mormons typically apply to business/life gets called out really fast outside of the Beehive State. Just ask Henry Marsh. People in Utah are just angry. The porn problem has previously been mentioned. The suicide rate in Utah is also the 5th highest in the nation. I think what the overwhelming majority of the posters here are probably thinking is, don't point out the disparities of others when your house is far from clean.
Out really sounds like you could use your own advice. You'll literally ended with don't point out the disparities of others, no-one is clean of everything so do what you said and stop talking trash when you aren't perfect either
The Riot wrote:
Seriously Disappointed In Today's Adults wrote:
I'm just waiting until all of you realize he is completely joking around, and literally tagged the thread #trashtalktuesday . He's just making funny jokes sometimes off funny stereotypes. He's not being serious. Grow up.
Generally if someone wants to make funny jokes in public like this, they should at least be, you know, funny, or else they end up looking like an idiot.
The above poster thinks that because they didn't get the joke that nobody else did. I guess most runners have a better sense of humor than you.
This entire twitter rant is so childish. Clayson needs to grow up. Oh wait... most of them are 30.
THIS is why everyone hates BYU. They act like arrogant little d bags. So self righteous.
I am sure this rant violates the "Honor Code" of there made up religion. I can pull a rabbit out of a hat too.....
WinnytheBish wrote:
The Riot wrote:
Generally if someone wants to make funny jokes in public like this, they should at least be, you know, funny, or else they end up looking like an idiot.
The above poster thinks that because they didn't get the joke that nobody else did. I guess most runners under the age of 20 would get it even though they tend to have worse senses of humor than you.
Fixed.
nofacetimber wrote:
PC HS wrote:
Look, from reading through this thread, it's obvious you're a byu fan. You want to defend your school/state. That's fine and great. What you need to take into account is that all those byu guys are strange/do weird stuff. You also graduate 26 year olds commonly.I'd suggest moving out of Utah for a few years to realize what a bubble you live in. You'll find out really quick that the entitled attitude that Utah has engrained in you does not fly.People don't even hold the door open for each other in Utah.You'll find that the dishonesty that mormons typically apply to business/life gets called out really fast outside of the Beehive State.Just ask Henry Marsh. People in Utah are just angry. The porn problem has previously been mentioned. The suicide rate in Utah is also the 5th highest in the nation.I think what the overwhelming majority of the posters here are probably thinking is, don't point out the disparities of others when your house is far from clean.
A fan I may be, but more importantly as you rightly said I aim to combat the unwarranted flood of misinformation and slander out there directed at the school, religion, and state.
You talk as if you are certain that I've never lived outside of Utah. That's a rush to judgment if I've ever seen one.
I think you are spot on with what the majority of posters here are thinking. I think that they also rush to condemn and judge without taking things into context.
#TrashTalkTuesday as the runner in question called it. Was a fun and creative way to take a jab at the other competition who made it to nationals before the big day. Trash talk and banter is nothing new among athletes. At the end of the day the vast majority of these athletes respect each other.
If you were to look at this athletes likes on twitter you would see that he likes posts from other cross country programs who could be considered rivals. He's supportive of and shows respect to these programs and their achievements. Instead of having a laugh and treating it like the levity that it is. Posters are act as if he is insulting their honor. And feel the need to bash everything associated with him. Not with an air of lightheartedness mind you, but heavy with derision.
Your accusations claiming dishonesty by members of this particular religion remind me of a talk I once heard that has had a big impact on me in my life. Here's an excerpt:
"Some 30 years ago, while working in the corporate world, some business associates and I were passing through O’Hare Airport in Chicago, Illinois. One of these men had just sold his company for tens of millions of dollars—in other words, he was not poor.
As we were passing a newspaper vending machine, this individual put a quarter in the machine, opened the door to the stack of papers inside the machine, and began dispensing unpaid-for newspapers to each of us. When he handed me a newspaper, I put a quarter in the machine and, trying not to offend but to make a point, jokingly said, “Jim, for 25 cents I can maintain my integrity. A dollar, questionable, but 25 cents—no, not for 25 cents.” You see, I remembered well the experience of three towels and a broken-down 1941 Hudson. A few minutes later we passed the same newspaper vending machine. I noticed that Jim had broken away from our group and was stuffing quarters in the vending machine. I tell you this incident not to portray myself as an unusual example of honesty, but only to emphasize the lessons of three towels and a 25-cent newspaper.
There will never be honesty in the business world, in the schools, in the home, or anyplace else until there is honesty in the heart."
Honesty is very important to me and I consider it one of the tenants of my faith.
I appreciate you post. I really do. Thanks for taking the time to write that. However, in dealing with Mormons the 15 years of doing business in Utah, they are hands down the most dishonest people I've ever dealt with. Hands down. There's not even a close second.
PC HS wrote:
nofacetimber wrote:
A fan I may be, but more importantly as you rightly said I aim to combat the unwarranted flood of misinformation and slander out there directed at the school, religion, and state.
You talk as if you are certain that I've never lived outside of Utah. That's a rush to judgment if I've ever seen one.
I think you are spot on with what the majority of posters here are thinking. I think that they also rush to condemn and judge without taking things into context.
#TrashTalkTuesday as the runner in question called it. Was a fun and creative way to take a jab at the other competition who made it to nationals before the big day. Trash talk and banter is nothing new among athletes. At the end of the day the vast majority of these athletes respect each other.
If you were to look at this athletes likes on twitter you would see that he likes posts from other cross country programs who could be considered rivals. He's supportive of and shows respect to these programs and their achievements. Instead of having a laugh and treating it like the levity that it is. Posters are act as if he is insulting their honor. And feel the need to bash everything associated with him. Not with an air of lightheartedness mind you, but heavy with derision.
Your accusations claiming dishonesty by members of this particular religion remind me of a talk I once heard that has had a big impact on me in my life. Here's an excerpt:
"Some 30 years ago, while working in the corporate world, some business associates and I were passing through O’Hare Airport in Chicago, Illinois. One of these men had just sold his company for tens of millions of dollars—in other words, he was not poor.
As we were passing a newspaper vending machine, this individual put a quarter in the machine, opened the door to the stack of papers inside the machine, and began dispensing unpaid-for newspapers to each of us. When he handed me a newspaper, I put a quarter in the machine and, trying not to offend but to make a point, jokingly said, “Jim, for 25 cents I can maintain my integrity. A dollar, questionable, but 25 cents—no, not for 25 cents.” You see, I remembered well the experience of three towels and a broken-down 1941 Hudson. A few minutes later we passed the same newspaper vending machine. I noticed that Jim had broken away from our group and was stuffing quarters in the vending machine. I tell you this incident not to portray myself as an unusual example of honesty, but only to emphasize the lessons of three towels and a 25-cent newspaper.
There will never be honesty in the business world, in the schools, in the home, or anyplace else until there is honesty in the heart."
Honesty is very important to me and I consider it one of the tenants of my faith.
I appreciate you post. I really do. Thanks for taking the time to write that. However, in dealing with Mormons the 15 years of doing business in Utah, they are hands down the most dishonest people I've ever dealt with. Hands down. There's not even a close second.
Really PC HS? Where else have you lived and worked? I'm a silicon valley native and I very much disagree with this. I'm not claiming Utah is without it's flaws. And you are correct about there being a culture of needing to project an image of honesty and morality more so in Utah than elsewhere. But I also find that behind that projection, people actually do tend to be more honest and moral. There's nothing wrong, in my opinion, of projecting an image of high moral value, if your aim is to do good to those around you as opposed to deceive. Your claim that people won't even hold the door open for each other in Utah is a complete joke. It happens way more in SLC than in SFO in my opinion.
I'm just one person, so my opinion is anecdote. But I'm a CA native, and I've also lived in the MidWest, Denver, and SLC. The people in Utah are great.
As for all the BYU hate, I'm sorry but it just doesn't make sense. BYU is a good school. It's not the best school, but it's a good one. The athletes aren't as old as the exaggerated average on this message board tends to suggest, and the 2 year mission isn't much of an advantage, if at all for some. And even if it is an advantage, get over it. No rules are being broken and you're in the ring with them under the same rules. If the rule ever changes and they can't get the 2 years back from the mission, they would likely finish close to the same at nationals anyway. Their 21 -23 year olds would be better because many likely would then skip the mission and they wouldn't take the 2 years off of running.
As for Clayson, he's joking around. If you don't like his sense of humor, then okay. It was an attempt at comedy as opposed to insult.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:
dfa wrote:
Geez, you have the sense of humor of a 18 year old, Rojo
This. Nothing "hilarious" (nor "savage") in there, Beavis.
ok boomer
PC HS wrote:
nofacetimber wrote:
A fan I may be, but more importantly as you rightly said I aim to combat the unwarranted flood of misinformation and slander out there directed at the school, religion, and state.
You talk as if you are certain that I've never lived outside of Utah. That's a rush to judgment if I've ever seen one.
I think you are spot on with what the majority of posters here are thinking. I think that they also rush to condemn and judge without taking things into context.
#TrashTalkTuesday as the runner in question called it. Was a fun and creative way to take a jab at the other competition who made it to nationals before the big day. Trash talk and banter is nothing new among athletes. At the end of the day the vast majority of these athletes respect each other.
If you were to look at this athletes likes on twitter you would see that he likes posts from other cross country programs who could be considered rivals. He's supportive of and shows respect to these programs and their achievements. Instead of having a laugh and treating it like the levity that it is. Posters are act as if he is insulting their honor. And feel the need to bash everything associated with him. Not with an air of lightheartedness mind you, but heavy with derision.
Your accusations claiming dishonesty by members of this particular religion remind me of a talk I once heard that has had a big impact on me in my life. Here's an excerpt:
"Some 30 years ago, while working in the corporate world, some business associates and I were passing through O’Hare Airport in Chicago, Illinois. One of these men had just sold his company for tens of millions of dollars—in other words, he was not poor.
As we were passing a newspaper vending machine, this individual put a quarter in the machine, opened the door to the stack of papers inside the machine, and began dispensing unpaid-for newspapers to each of us. When he handed me a newspaper, I put a quarter in the machine and, trying not to offend but to make a point, jokingly said, “Jim, for 25 cents I can maintain my integrity. A dollar, questionable, but 25 cents—no, not for 25 cents.” You see, I remembered well the experience of three towels and a broken-down 1941 Hudson. A few minutes later we passed the same newspaper vending machine. I noticed that Jim had broken away from our group and was stuffing quarters in the vending machine. I tell you this incident not to portray myself as an unusual example of honesty, but only to emphasize the lessons of three towels and a 25-cent newspaper.
There will never be honesty in the business world, in the schools, in the home, or anyplace else until there is honesty in the heart."
Honesty is very important to me and I consider it one of the tenants of my faith.
I appreciate you post. I really do. Thanks for taking the time to write that. However, in dealing with Mormons the 15 years of doing business in Utah, they are hands down the most dishonest people I've ever dealt with. Hands down. There's not even a close second.
What sector do you work in? I'm interested as to why you have had such a bad experience. I'm sure that is not typical since businesses are locating to Utah in large numbers.
https://siteselection.com/cc/utah/2018/business-climate-overview-utah-the-best-state-for-business.cfmoiuoiu wrote:
is this guy 12?
jk he's 25 like the rest of BYU because the NCAA gives preferential treatment to cults and the only reason they are any good.
Religious bigot allert!
Clayson = Joe Dirt wrote:
This entire twitter rant is so childish. Clayson needs to grow up. Oh wait... most of them are 30.
THIS is why everyone hates BYU. They act like arrogant little d bags. So self righteous.
I am sure this rant violates the "Honor Code" of there made up religion. I can pull a rabbit out of a hat too.....
Bigot allert!
blamb61 wrote:
PC HS wrote:
I appreciate you post. I really do. Thanks for taking the time to write that. However, in dealing with Mormons the 15 years of doing business in Utah, they are hands down the most dishonest people I've ever dealt with. Hands down. There's not even a close second.
What sector do you work in? I'm interested as to why you have had such a bad experience. I'm sure that is not typical since businesses are locating to Utah in large numbers.
https://siteselection.com/cc/utah/2018/business-climate-overview-utah-the-best-state-for-business.cfm
My brother and I owned a company that built houses, driveways, and private roads.
The dishonesty was all the way from the agents and owners selling the land...to the new home owners paying for the actual work on a new home...to actual subcontractors not doing what they were paid to do or doing poor work...to actual buying materials to run our business. It was the entire gamut- from top to bottom. Total nightmare over and over and over again. If someone told you in Utah that the sky was blue outside, you felt obliged to stick your head out the window to make sure that was the case.