ALBERTO SALAZAR BANNED FROM ATHLETICS FOR FOUR YEARS FOR DOPING VIOLATIONS

Just making sure... wrote:

This is October 1st and not April 1st, right?

Only 4 years?

While I don't think anyone believes that all of these athletes were doing questionable stuff, this has got to hurt the group. Even Julian's athletes now get tarnished by association. Mo and Galen are looking the most suspicious but who knows now. There may never be a positive test or anything more done about this but the court of public opinion will have its say.

I find it very interesting some people dislike NOP a lot but like BTC a lot at the same time?

The only difference between the two is branding. NOP is branded as a group of people who will do what it takes to win and are on the cutting edge of "science". Where as BTC is branded almost like a "family club". They have junior athletes that can run for the club, they have innocent females who promote all the fuzzy feel good things, thus creating an image of "We are the good guys, we would never dope".

If you cant see BTC is basically as bad as NOP, you need to wake up.

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Hey Hey Hey

Goodbyeeeeeee

Don't let the door hit you on the way out Alberto. It's people like Alberto with his win at all costs mentality that are truly destroying the sport. Are there other coaches and groups that are doing similar things? No doubt. But, what these documents conclusively show is that the entire Salazar operation has been a sham from the start. Turns out that maybe lying through your teeth and treating people like s**t will eventually get you into trouble.

Also, I would definitely say the burden of proof is the other way around. At this point any athlete who is willingly working with Salazar given everything that has been known (For years at this point!!!) has to be considered tainted in some way.

Thank you to all the whistleblowers who care about cleaning up the sport (e.g. Magness, the Gouchers, etc.). Your efforts are not in vain!

Serious question: who is going to coach Rupp for Tokyo?

Is Rupp just going to shake this one off like “we’re focused on working hard every day. People say lots of things but that doesn’t affect me...” as he’s done in the past when doping allegations have come up?

I mean his lifetime coach literally just got banned for doping infractions.

Does NOP just disband?

I would love to be a fly on the wall at Nike HQ right now. How can they possibly spin this one?

loco runner wrote:

hellonerth wrote:

Alberto is a sociopath. However, does anybody believe that WOODY KINCAID is clean and running faster than doped Galen Rupp. If so, you have drunk the Koolcaid.

This sums up my disappointment with the whole situation. I have always had blinders on for NOP especially Salazar and Rupp. Mostly because if you believe that the kid who was pretty talented and was receiving world class coaching and utilizing Nike resources since high school has to dope to compete with the best in the world than how can you think that anyone else is clean. To me this casts suspicion on most other pro runners at that top tier. Maybe that is wrong but this certainly killed my zeal for the sport.

Of course nearly everyone at the top is doping, that’s what many on here have been saying for years. You don’t hang with or beat Africans who are on full blown (as opposed to microdosing) doping programs if you aren’t doing something yourself! You don’t run WELL under 3:30, 13:00, or 27:00 naturally! Now 2 hours and sub one hour for the marathon and half?! What’s wrong with you people? Wake TF up!

How does this NOT take down Rupp too? The pair were practically joined at the hip. Could his 2020 hopes be in danger, or possibly even his medal from 2016?

True. Jager was one of the athletes "likely doping" in the leaked USADA report.

crisscrosscountry wrote:

Raddison wrote:

List of NOP athletes:

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Former members

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While I don't think anyone believes that all of these athletes were doing questionable stuff, this has got to hurt the group. Even Julian's athletes now get tarnished by association. Mo and Galen are looking the most suspicious but who knows now. There may never be a positive test or anything more done about this but the court of public opinion will have its say.

It's bound to have an impact on their reputations. From the USADA report, "(T)he AAA panel found that Salazar and Brown possessed and trafficked a banned performance-enhancing substance and administered or attempted to administer a prohibited method to multiple track and field athletes."

Worlds, Berlin, AlSal, Chicago next Sunday, ....be still my beating heart. A lot of drama for us fans.

Well...this f’ing sucks.

Jgt11 wrote:

No athletes tested positive. They can't prove who was doping or not

Lance never tested positive.

NOTHING from Flotrack yet!

I predict that he'll coach again after the 4 years.

Oregon Project...I'd like to introduce you to Athletics West.

If there are detailed records of injections and doses and timeframes, wouldn't that be enough to suspend someone or take a medal back?

Isn't that what got Marion?

thatswhy wrote:

...because l-carntine is not a banned substance!

Wrong. In greater than allowed dosages it is banned.

SAME SAME wrote:

I find it very interesting some people dislike NOP a lot but like BTC a lot at the same time?

The only difference between the two is branding. NOP is branded as a group of people who will do what it takes to win and are on the cutting edge of "science". Where as BTC is branded almost like a "family club". They have junior athletes that can run for the club, they have innocent females who promote all the fuzzy feel good things, thus creating an image of "We are the good guys, we would never dope".

If you cant see BTC is basically as bad as NOP, you need to wake up.

I can't see because of the commercials that happen during races.