Where would you tap out holding Kipchoge’s pace

Bonkers wrote:

Right now, somewhere between 2k and 2400.

If you think this guy is clean I have some penny stocks I'd like to sell you.

Yeah no way - doped to the gills.

I would hang for about 600 meters in trainers. Probably 624 meters if I wore those vaporflys.

There are treadmills in my gym that can go at 12.9 mph(max 15 mph). I am going to try to see how long I can keep up that pace wearing Vaporfly 4% at 12.9 mph with 1% incline as my personal Eliud Kipchoge World Record Marathon Pace Challenge.

I went to a "makes it to D1 NCAA XC nats every few years" level program.

I don't think we ever did 6 or 8 x 1 mile repeats as fast as 4:38. I think the fastest we ever went for mile repeats was in the 4:40s. The occasional stud would close out a session like that with a 4:28 final mile.

This includes guys with sub 14 5k PR and 29 flat 10kers.

Damn, the raw facts of 4:38 x 26 with no rest is amazing.

In my prime, 1200 meters.

Currently, probably 450-500 meters.

in reality, 600 m

if age graded, 5 miles

You must be 100. Kipchoge is 43

At 34, around 1500m.

At 44 (now), probably close to 600m, sadly

200-300m. I'm old (and a little fat).

My 1/4 mile PR: 66 seconds (back in 1981). My mile PR: 5:18 (slightly uphill mile #4 in my PR Marathon); My 1/2 Marathon pace PR: 5:38 (also 1981). My marathon PR: 2:39:04 (also 1981).

So, back then I could have kept up for 400 meters. Given that, I really find Eliud's new WR unfathomable - but it looked so smooth for him - I don't mean at all to dampen the enthusiasm for this incredible record; but I wouldn't be surprised if he breaks it again.

Now? I don't run any more.

I quit after a reached a total mileage of 262,220 miles (the equivalent of 10,000 separate marathons) spread over 36 years. I felt that I had run out of running goals - and, in my mid-60s, was getting more concerned about accidents when on long, cross-country runs out in the mountains and boonies.

Only about 600 meters. But on a crushed gravel flat 50k I’d beat him by 3 mins. His legs could never handle the distance.

In Awe wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

You thought running with Rodgers and Shorter was "doable"? With a 9:40 2-mile PR you would been maxed out just after the 2-mile mark. The rest of the race would have been absolutely miserable for you.

No. What I meant was that as a neophyte high school runner, 5 minute-per mile marathon pace was something that, at the time, seemed like it might be eventually possible for me, after years of training, say, in my mid-20s or so. In my first few years of running I was on a progression where that at least seemed feasible, but then I hit my genetic limits. 4:38 pace, on the other hand, is something I wouldn't have even dared to dream about.

I'm with you. During my first years of running, Rodgers was still winning, and Shorter was still kicking. 5m miles were the thing. But by the time I got there, turning 5 minutes miles for a 10K or the odd 15K I'd find, the WR had gone from 2:08~ to 2:06. I could see the writing on the wall. Not that I thought I'd ever get to 2:11.06 or whatever, but the realization that if I did, it would be pedestrian by that time. Turning a 31M 10K was hard enough!

I was thinking about this the whole race and it's pretty easy for me. His pace is my mile PR. So... that if I have a really good day

Right now, probably 1400-1500m. In my best shape 2400 to maybe 2600m on a bouncy BU indoor track.

3200 my ass probably not even 1m.

I'd get past a mile. I wouldn't make 2k.

WhitePony wrote:

Right now I would be happy to make it 400m....

"Back in the day," about 2M ... today, 100m at best.

In Awe wrote:

No. What I meant was that as a neophyte high school runner, 5 minute-per mile marathon pace was something that, at the time, seemed like it might be eventually possible for me, after years of training, say, in my mid-20s or so. In my first few years of running I was on a progression where that at least seemed feasible, but then I hit my genetic limits. 4:38 pace, on the other hand, is something I wouldn't have even dared to dream about.

Weldon and I were the same way. Once we could do a 5 minute mile, the idea of training so we could do 26 of them in a row didn't seem that unfathomable. I remember though when Haile ran like 12:39 or something Weldon in his head thought, "That doesn't seem doable."

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