casual obsever wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
Whether Kiprop doped or not (many of us Kenyans, for many reasons, have our doubts ) the most painful part of cleaning the sport in Kenya should be behind us. We’ll now have our popcorn ready watching to see if other countries will take the same bold, painful steps and which big names will come crashing down.
That was hilarious. All of it.
+1 ?
El Keniano wrote:
casual obsever wrote:
That was hilarious. All of it.
What’s hilarious is almost zero Brits and yanks being busted, implying that no one is cheating in those countries.
The more Kenyans get busted, the more it proves to freaks like you, vivalarepublics, ex-runner, longjack, Jeff Fallon that Brits are doping.
Crazy racist doping apologist loons killing our sport.
Rule Britannia wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
What’s hilarious is almost zero Brits and yanks being busted, implying that no one is cheating in those countries.
Brits don't dope. They are just highly unfortunate to have an epidemic of severe asthma in their country which has mutated and become contagious among their elite endurance athletes. They have to be treated medically just so they can stand on the starting line in normal health. They have it tougher than most.
? That and feeble doorbells.
Coevett wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
What’s hilarious is almost zero Brits and yanks being busted, implying that no one is cheating in those countries.
The more Kenyans get busted, the more it proves to freaks like you, vivalarepublics, ex-runner, longjack, Jeff Fallon that Brits are doping.
Crazy racist doping apologist loons killing our sport.
It is not your sport. At least not in the sense you mean. It hasn’t been since the mid-eighties.
El Keniano wrote:
Coevett wrote:
The more Kenyans get busted, the more it proves to freaks like you, vivalarepublics, ex-runner, longjack, Jeff Fallon that Brits are doping.
Crazy racist doping apologist loons killing our sport.
It is not your sport. At least not in the sense you mean. It hasn’t been since the mid-eighties.
I said 'our sport', meaning any real fans. If you though I meant 'our clean sport', or 'our non-discredited sport' then yes, you're right.
Coevett wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
It is not your sport. At least not in the sense you mean. It hasn’t been since the mid-eighties.
I said 'our sport', meaning any real fans. If you though I meant 'our clean sport', or 'our non-discredited sport' then yes, you're right.
First, you're anything but a "real" fan. And it's pretty clear from your posts your nostalgia for the 'golden age' when the 'right' kind of athletes from the 'right' countries were competitive.
El Keniano wrote:
? That and feeble doorbells.
I must admit, good one ?
vivalarepublica wrote:
Great to see that the dopers are being caught!
Probably 1% of them.
This news is some weeks ago and togheter with Olympic Champion Ruth Jebet positive for Epo in the same article
there is the name of Violah Chepchumba who has ran the third fastest half marathon in history and they say for the first time is revealed to be fighting a 4 year ban for doping offence.
Does anybody knows about it? I didnt know she was tested positive. Is it something happened in the past?
El Keniano wrote:
It is not your sport. At least not in the sense you mean. It hasn’t been since the mid-eig
hties.
Doesn't appear to be your sport anymore either. Looks like any non-doped winners coming out of Kenya are named Robertson. Still running for NZ unfortunately for you.
oh ohhhh wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
It is not your sport. At least not in the sense you mean. It hasn’t been since the mid-eig
hties.
Doesn't appear to be your sport anymore either. Looks like any non-doped winners coming out of Kenya are named Robertson. Still running for NZ unfortunately for you.
I apologize, El Keniano. And I apologize for changing my handle so many times on this thread.
I really am an imbecile.
Coevett wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
What’s hilarious is almost zero Brits and yanks being busted, implying that no one is cheating in those countries.
The more Kenyans get busted, the more it proves to freaks like you, vivalarepublics, ex-runner, longjack, Jeff Fallon that Brits are doping.
Crazy racist doping apologist loons killing our sport.
I don't recall ever saying anything about Brits doping. Stop making stuff up.
What I do know is that Kenyan anti-doping seems to have become more effective and they are in partnership with UKAD to improve their anti-doping procedures. Sounds like a great collaboration!
Bluesky wrote:
This news is some weeks ago and togheter with Olympic Champion Ruth Jebet positive for Epo in the same article
there is the name of Violah Chepchumba who has ran the third fastest half marathon in history and they say for the first time is revealed to be fighting a 4 year ban for doping offence.
Does anybody knows about it? I didnt know she was tested positive. Is it something happened in the past?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/jul/20/gold-medallist-ruth-jebet-disciplinary-proceedings-doping
Wow!...it looks like it's a confirmed positive for EPO from a February (2018) drug control!
This is getting ridiculous - a 21 yr old Olympic Gold medalist, former WR holder and currently the 2nd fastest SC ever...busted for using rocket fuel. This is getting crazy!...in just the last 8 months you've got Kiprop, Jebet, Kalalei all positive for EPO. And now there's some chatter on Chepchumba? Man...my head is spinning! ?
https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2018/07/20/ruth-jebet-ivan-ukhov-doping/https://www.athleticsintegrity.org/disciplinary-process/provisional-suspensions-in-forceI love to laugh and laugh hard wrote:
casual obsever wrote:
That was hilarious. All of it.
+1 ?
Is this the greatest generation of runners ever?
The world records are as good as ever. Participation is at an all time high. The greats of today and yesterday are connected to thousands of fans and followers on social media. There are so many companies and services. It is easy for today’s budding runners to get connected to the advice of coaches, current and former athletes and to attend camps. Mobile devices increase connectivity whereas in the past we were limited and saddled by desktop computers.
More people have broken four minutes than ever.
Many of our athletes are gathered and training together.
Testing for PEDs and public opinion against them is at an all time high.
3:57, 3:58, 3:59
ᴛʜᴇ Lᴀsᴛ sʜᴀʟʟ ʙᴇ Fɪʀsᴛ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ғɪʀsᴛ sʜᴀʟʟ ʙᴇ ʟᴀsᴛ
Theresa May has launched a massive police investigation costing tens of millions. But she has reliably informed us that intelligence too delicate to share with us shows that Putin personally ordered the drug taking and that all the world's EPO is manufactured in Moscow (even though you can read loads of books look up the formula on wikipedia and actually make it at home in the kitchen). International arrest warrants have already been drafted for randomly selected friends of Putin whose assets will be frozen and are now liable to extraordinary rendition.
oh ohhhh wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
It is not your sport. At least not in the sense you mean. It hasn’t been since the mid-eig
hties.
Doesn't appear to be your sport anymore either. Looks like any non-doped winners coming out of Kenya are named Robertson. Still running for NZ unfortunately for you.
Ahem. AAA-hemm.
El Keniano wrote:
I have never heard of this guy (virtual unknown in Kenya) so, other than being Kenyan, it’s no big loss and we won’t be losing any sleep. We’re still reeling from the Kiprop case which shook the country to its core. I agree it’s great that dopers are being nabbed which currently, is only happening in Kenya. I fully expect the busts to reduce significantly shortly, if not end completely.
I also don’t expect any more real big names of Kiprop’s calibre because those are currently the most tested athletes in Kenya, if not the world, and with the new AIU policy of transparency, their names would’ve been up by now if they had failed tests. So with the cheats all finally weeded out, and any missed probably already off the sauce spooked by the recent flurry of busts, clean Kenyan elites can finally get back to redeeming the country’s reputation.
Someone said last year, after Jemima Sumgong, that it needed to get worse for it to get better. Even though it didn’t seem like it at the time, the Asbel Kiprop cloud had a silver lining as it gave the country a necessary jolt as none of the previous busts had been household names in Kenya. Whether Kiprop doped or not (many of us Kenyans, for many reasons, have our doubts ) the most painful part of cleaning the sport in Kenya should be behind us. We’ll now have our popcorn ready watching to see if other countries will take the same bold, painful steps and which big names will come crashing down.
What about Jebet? You haven't mentioned anything about her that I'm aware of. This, by far, would be the biggest Kenyan female bust to date (blows Sumgong & Jeptoo away).
- Olympic Gold medalist.
- Former WR holder
- Currently the 2nd fastest SC ever.
https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2018/07/20/ruth-jebet-ivan-ukhov-doping/This Is Getting Ridiculous wrote:
Bluesky wrote:
This news is some weeks ago and togheter with Olympic Champion Ruth Jebet positive for Epo in the same article
there is the name of Violah Chepchumba who has ran the third fastest half marathon in history and they say for the first time is revealed to be fighting a 4 year ban for doping offence.
Does anybody knows about it? I didnt know she was tested positive. Is it something happened in the past?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/jul/20/gold-medallist-ruth-jebet-disciplinary-proceedings-dopingWow!...it looks like it's a confirmed positive for EPO from a February (2018) drug control!
This is getting ridiculous - a 21 yr old Olympic Gold medalist, former WR holder and currently the 2nd fastest SC ever...busted for using rocket fuel. This is getting crazy!...in just the last 8 months you've got Kiprop, Jebet, Kalalei all positive for EPO. And now there's some chatter on Chepchumba? Man...my head is spinning! ?
https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2018/07/20/ruth-jebet-ivan-ukhov-doping/https://www.athleticsintegrity.org/disciplinary-process/provisional-suspensions-in-force
Nice to meet you, Rip van Winkle. Huge fan.
At this point we need to talk seriously about banning kenya, and the coaches who work with kenyans, including canova, from international competition. This is getting ridiculous.
The pressure is very great in Kenya to succeed in long distance races. This is their way to achieve financial security.