Good, this clown will get drilled.
And we can all stop the Yuki BS.
He is an international distraction.
The sooner he goes away, the better.
(He’s an Asian famligetti or merber or that burly English 10k guy who trash talks Mo.)
Good, this clown will get drilled.
And we can all stop the Yuki BS.
He is an international distraction.
The sooner he goes away, the better.
(He’s an Asian famligetti or merber or that burly English 10k guy who trash talks Mo.)
Super great Mario wrote:
Good, this clown will get drilled.
And we can all stop the Yuki BS.
He is an international distraction.
The sooner he goes away, the better.
(He’s an Asian famligetti or merber or that burly English 10k guy who trash talks Mo.)
Exactly. The pacers in Chicago will be going out faster that Yuki's half PR. So can we stop all the nonsense about there being a rivalry between Rupp and Kawauchi?
I was always somewhat of a fan of Yuki. I was happy he won Boston (at first), but the Larner article was complete fantasy drivel and made me a non-fan. Yuki sprinting out to an early lead had nothing to do with his win. It was all about the the conditions which created serious health issues for most of the Elite field.
Flukey Kawauchi wrote:
I wonder what Brett Larner's story will be after Flukey finishes minutes behind Galen and Mo.
+1000!
Bullet_Proof wrote:
Flukey Kawauchi wrote:
I wonder what NOP FAN BOYS story will be after RUPP & FARAH FAIL TO finish.
+1000!
Yuki fan wrote:
Scorpion_runner wrote:
He runs too many marathons to be fast, and he ran 2;08 back in 2011. he is 31 now, and he recently ran 2:22
This dude has run around 82 marathons in his lifetime, and really does not give his body any time to rest. He would be a lot faster if he only ran 2 marathons a year.
He is built for endurance, and has great aerobic ability, but lacks speed intensity/speed endurance to really pop as a marathoner.
In a slow, hilly, tough weather marathon he would definitely be a threat, but he is not built to go out a WR marathon pace.
Agree. However hypothetically if you put Rupp and Farah head to head with Yuki on Yuki's race schedule then they would be falling apart after about 2 months and Yuki would be demolishing them in every race thereafter. It's Yuki's race schedule and quantity of high level results that sets him apart from everyone else. I am pretty shocked that he has not yet had a major running related injury because he has been doing this now for several years on the run.
First of all, no. Just no. If they went on his schedule they would still wup him. Second, racing a lot of slow marathons doesnt determine who is a better runner. Running fast does.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
Yep, interesting race with those 2 Japanese entrants.
I SOOOOOOO hope that Kawauchi takes this one, but those guys are fast. Anything can happen.
For my money, Kawauchi IS the best marathoner. Rupp and Farah may be faster in good conditions, but Kawauchi is faster in bad conditions. Rupp and Farah may be faster when they are ready, but Kawauchi is faster when he is not ready. Rupp and Farah may be faster at certain times of the training cycle, but Kawauchi is faster throughout the training cycle.
Faster under some conditions does not equal better.
"Better" is the athlete who has contributed more to the sport--and for marathoning, for me it's Kawauchi. At the very least, he is better than anybody else entered in the Chicago thon.
What does it mean to "contribute more to the sport"?
Thats vague. Can you elaborate?
Super great Mario wrote:
Good, this clown will get drilled.
And we can all stop the Yuki BS.
He is an international distraction.
The sooner he goes away, the better.
(He’s an Asian famligetti or merber or that burly English 10k guy who trash talks Mo.)
Extremely weaksauce post.
Yuki is one of the greatest clean marathoners ever.
Fam was a shitt-talker with no performances to back it up.
Yuki won effing BOSTON. Coddled "I need a pacer!" wimps like Kipchoge won't even show up for that race.
Yuki is in 2:05:30 shape and it's not strange to think he could utterly bone Farah and Rupp in Chicago.
Karl Hungus wrote:
Raddison wrote:
Agreed, Yuki probably won't win but he will certainly follow his own game plan. He is not going to ask for anyone's permission to go out hard and he won't have a corporate sponsor whispering in his ear, "don't make our star athlete look bad."
He just disrupted Rupp/Farah's plan for the race. I mean, I don't expect him to win and he'll probably end up in a top 10 finish, but he just injected some chaos into the race, and it'll be good.
Having said that, the times I've run Chicago the weather has ranged from sh1t to fuck1ng sh1t, so his endurance in crap conditions may help.
Yuki will need bad conditions to screw up their race plan. In good conditions, he will not be able to stay with the lead pack pace. Yuki also does not run well in hot weather, so if it's the usual way too hot for a marathon Chicago marathon weather (change the fricking race date, Pinkowski), this will not benefit Yuki.
Although if the weather is hot, I could see Yuki staying off the pace and then swallowing up the field as everybody bonks from the fast pace. Yuki's hot weather marathons have been at World Champs that don't have pacers. His ultramarathoner strength could benefit.
It'll be like 81 deg and half the field will roll over and wimp out while Yuki cruises to low 2:08 pr
Book it.
Station to Station wrote:
Scorpion_runner wrote:
he is not built to go out a WR marathon pace.
Mr. Kawauchi went out at 2:01 pace at the 2018 Boston Marathon.
He went out so fast that Larry Rawson mentioned that around the 10k mark somebody was going to give him a piano to carry.
Rawson is a goon.
Phantasy Star wrote:
Super great Mario wrote:
Good, this clown will get drilled.
And we can all stop the Yuki BS.
He is an international distraction.
The sooner he goes away, the better.
(He’s an Asian famligetti or merber or that burly English 10k guy who trash talks Mo.)
Extremely weaksauce post.
Yuki is one of the greatest clean marathoners ever.
Fam was a shitt-talker with no performances to back it up.
Yuki won effing BOSTON. Coddled "I need a pacer!" wimps like Kipchoge won't even show up for that race.
Yuki is in 2:05:30 shape and it's not strange to think he could utterly bone Farah and Rupp in Chicago.
"wimps like Kipchoge".
heh, nice try.
You are rooting for the wrong runners.
That would be awesome wrote:
Lydiard Cerutty wrote:
I pray that Yuki beats Mo and Galen.
I like his style of running much better.
I like that he goes for it, but maybe he doesn't pace himself very well.
He is a suicide runner, he doesn't care much about pace, big names, etc. he goes for it. I like his style, win or loose he gives it all. I wish him luck.
ironside wrote:
If Farah is within 5 metres of leader with 900m to go, that's when Farah goes to his head bob pace. Galen Rupp can't beat Mohammed Farah if it becomes a 900m race.
As there are pacers, and it's a fast race, no one will have a 'kick.' Have you ever run a marathon bro? You've got NOTHING left for the end. You can try and ramp it up over the last mile or so, but nothing which really resembles a kick.
Hopefully Yuki does well in this race, but it is still a marathon, and harder to be certain if Mohamed or Galen will have a good day or a bad day. Yuki, has bad days too, but he has fewer of them, because he knows the marathon and the preparation to run your best like the back of his hand.
I recall Bekele literally kicking the fukk out of Berlin when he ran the wr in Berlin. Running probably literally sub 4 m mile pace. I don't count Kimetto's run. I'm suspicious.
Will this be his A race or is he peaking for another race?
ml236 wrote:
Will this be his A race or is he peaking for another race?
If he runs a marathon the week or month before, he's not contending.
Shitara has a better chance if the pace is fast, if he were running.
end result wrote:
If 40-50 degrees, no wind, no rain:
Rupp: 2:04:20
Farah: 2:05:10
Yuki: 2:06:50
If 20 degrees and 30 mph winds:
Yuki: 2:09:40
Rupp: DNF
Farah: DNS
POD
KudzuRunner wrote:
end result wrote:
If 40-50 degrees, no wind, no rain:
Rupp: 2:04:20
Farah: 2:05:10
Yuki: 2:06:50
If 20 degrees and 30 mph winds:
Yuki: 2:09:40
Rupp: DNF
Farah: DNS
POD
Almost. It will be more along the following lines:
If 40-50 degrees, no wind, no rain:
Rupp: 2:04:00
Farah: 2:06:11
Yuki: 2:13:50
If 20 degrees and 30 mph winds:
Rubb: 2:04:03
Farah: DNF
Yuki: 2:13:04
Bullet_Proof wrote:
Almost. It will be more along the following lines:
If 40-50 degrees, no wind, no rain:
Rupp: 2:04:00
Farah: 2:06:11
Yuki: 2:13:50
If 20 degrees and 30 mph winds:
Rubb: 2:04:03
Farah: DNF
Yuki: 2:13:04
Agree for Yuki in good conditions. Do people really think he can run a PB off his training? He's not changing anything from his "pile on the marathons" approach. Unless he changes his approach, he's not running 2:06. He's never broken 2:08. He's only broken 2:10 four times!
Same training, same results wrote:
Bullet_Proof wrote:
Almost. It will be more along the following lines:
If 40-50 degrees, no wind, no rain:
Rupp: 2:04:00
Farah: 2:06:11
Yuki: 2:13:50
If 20 degrees and 30 mph winds:
Rubb: 2:04:03
Farah: DNF
Yuki: 2:13:04
Agree for Yuki in good conditions. Do people really think he can run a PB off his training? He's not changing anything from his "pile on the marathons" approach. Unless he changes his approach, he's not running 2:06. He's never broken 2:08. He's only broken 2:10 four times!
Last time Chicago had pacers the top results were:
1st, gold medalist(s) Eliud Kipchoge Kenya 2:04:11
2nd, silver medalist(s) Sammy Kitwara Kenya 2:04:28
3rd, bronze medalist(s) Dickson Chumba Kenya 2:04:32
4 Kenenisa Bekele Ethiopia 2:05:51
5 Bernard Koech Kenya 2:08:30
6 Ghirmay Ghebreslassie Eritrea 2:09:08
7 Lani Rutto Kenya 2:10:42
8 Wesley Korir Kenya 2:11:09
9 Bobby Curtis United States 2:11:20
10 Koji Kobayashi Japan 2:11:43
Yuki at worse, he'll be in the top ten. At best he'll be in the top five.