Most TV ads are produced, written and created entirely in the Hollywood/Los Angeles metro area, so I'm neutral on your issue. I think it's up to the TV Network to decide which ads are appropriate and which are out of bounds.
Most TV ads are produced, written and created entirely in the Hollywood/Los Angeles metro area, so I'm neutral on your issue. I think it's up to the TV Network to decide which ads are appropriate and which are out of bounds.
Jayzus wrote:
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
The NFL and windbag Godell are hypocrites. On one hand they allow the players to make a "political" statement, but then say that the ad is not allowed because its too "political"? I personally won't be watching, and I'm from New England. Idiots! (Apologies to Napoleon Dynamite).
Hypocrites? Customer vs. employee. Do you think the NFL would run an ad from BLM that is telling people to kneel for the anthem?
They don't have to. The players already have been.
The usa is like russia or turkey were protests are not shown
Nice job being so obviously racist rojo. All the news in the world, and this is what you want to get Letsrun talking about?
stars and stripes wrote:
“The Super Bowl game program is designed for fans to commemorate and celebrate the game, players, teams and the Super Bowl. It’s never been a place for advertising that could be considered by some as a political statement,” McCarthy said.”
Then why did they run a pro life ad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw7qX1TpdNQWhy did they weigh-in on immigration?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPo2B-vjZ28If players want to sit or stand then that's their right. If TV wants to allow or will deny moneied political groups to advertise then that's their right since it's their production. I hope our US Govt Employees and US Marines agree.
US Govt Employees and US Marines wrote:
If players want to sit or stand then that's their right. If TV wants to allow or will deny moneied political groups to advertise then that's their right since it's their production. I hope our US Govt Employees and US Marines agree.
No one's debating whether people have a right to protest. They are debating whether they agree with the premise of the protests or not. Reminding everyone that people have a right to protest is just a way to distract from the REASON for the protest, which the majority of Americans disagree with.
Orwecouldbe wrote:
Nice job being so obviously racist rojo. All the news in the world, and this is what you want to get Letsrun talking about?
You're unable to add anything insightful to the conversation, so you just call someone racist. That's really original and creative. Keep it up! I'm sure we will all be persuaded by your superior argument soon, just keep screaming "racist."
The NFL lost 150 million viewers this year.......They're to dumb to realize how self destructive this was....
Their fan base is middle class and patriotic...
truthseakr wrote:
They're to dumb...
Oh, the irony.
US Govt Employees and US Marines wrote:
If players want to sit or stand then that's their right. If TV wants to allow or will deny moneied political groups to advertise then that's their right since it's their production. I hope our US Govt Employees and US Marines agree.
Why have the national anthem at ALL sporting events (road races even)? NFL games are not international contests. Last time you heard national anthem to open a Def Leppard concert? Or at the cinema, even?
[quote]rojo wrote:
Ad looks pretty innoncent:
Nothing innocent about promoting militaristic propaganda. The more we keep talking about "Heroes" and watching Clint Eastwood films the more American kids will die for NO REASON.
Flaggy P wrote:
Well now wrote:
There's the American left for you, folks.
It's not his fault his dad (likely yours) is a yahoo. He's old and cranky and needs a cloud to yell at.
TIL: 125lb bespectacled soyboys call combat veterans "yahoos."
alanson wrote:
You haven't seen any protests on TV recently have you? That's because the NFL won't televise the Anthem any more.
Prior to any kneeling, the anthem was rarely shown on TV. Major exceptions such as the Super Bowl it was shown but prior to in season games it was unusual to show it. TV only started to show the anthem once things move to "controversy" status.
celery wrote:
The poster you first responded to said " read an article recently that dismissed the notion that flag protests are negatively effecting ratings." Which implied that kneeling had nothing to do with declining ratings. My post was largely in response to this idea (kneeling has no affect on ratings), and only partly in response to you also dismissing the possibility of multiple causes for declining ratings, as demonstrated by you labeling such considerations as the ideas of "yahoos."
Obviously, you don't closely read the posts you reply to. You probably will not take the time to comprehend the 3rd sentence in this post because it is rather long and contained more than one single idea. I could take the time to try to rewrite it in simpler and shorter sentences, but why should I waste my time? If you aren't going to try to understand what others are saying, please stop wasting your time as well.
So you took one line out of a post's source and drew a conclusion when the article covered a lot of territory. This is similar to the typical yahoo's "kneel = declining ratings" theory.
Yahoo for you.
Embarrassing. Veterans are dying in the streets and this foundation wants to waste money on a debate that is long since played out. Totally against the ideals they claim to stand for.
Some few footballers want to protest.
Some Americans claim this protest offends them.
Some supposedly pro-Veterans group want s to spend its money trying to argue against protesting.
What a waste of time all the way around.
hardtofollow wrote:
Some few footballers want to protest.
Some Americans claim this protest offends them.
Some supposedly pro-Veterans group want s to spend its money trying to argue against protesting.
What a waste of time all the way around.
On the surface it looks pointless. But like every aspect of the human experience, it is the context that gives it meaning. The players are kneeling in support of the proposition that something must be done to correct America's systemic racism.
Exactly what proof is there of systemic racism today, and exactly what is being proposed to fix it? That is never stated. All that really matters is that you must support them and admit that you are racist.
I know readers will think I'm being reactionary, but the players are not actually protesting anything specific. They are not proposing any specific policy. It is just a symbolic act that says we should all (white people) feel guilty about our (white people's) racism.
Since these protests are not about any policy, they are just purely about the culture war. Namely, will white people continue to feel white guilt?
celery wrote:
On the surface it looks pointless. But like every aspect of the human experience, it is the context that gives it meaning. The players are kneeling in support of the proposition that something must be done to correct America's systemic racism.
Exactly what proof is there of systemic racism today, and exactly what is being proposed to fix it? That is never stated. All that really matters is that you must support them and admit that you are racist.
I know readers will think I'm being reactionary, but the players are not actually protesting anything specific. They are not proposing any specific policy. It is just a symbolic act that says we should all (white people) feel guilty about our (white people's) racism.
Since these protests are not about any policy, they are just purely about the culture war. Namely, will white people continue to feel white guilt?
When movements get popular they lose laser-like focus simply because so many newcomers all have their own agenda. This is always true.
The kneeling started as a protest against police brutality.
DSB15 wrote:
US Govt Employees and US Marines wrote:
If players want to sit or stand then that's their right. If TV wants to allow or will deny moneied political groups to advertise then that's their right since it's their production. I hope our US Govt Employees and US Marines agree.
Why have the national anthem at ALL sporting events (road races even)? NFL games are not international contests. Last time you heard national anthem to open a Def Leppard concert? Or at the cinema, even?
The DOJ pays them to make a big deal. It was a small scandal when people found out. Google "DOJ paying NFL" or something along those lines.
Also, I wouldn't say the majority of Americans don't agree with the protests, whoever did say that. Most liberals and a fair amount of conservatives agree, they just aren't as vocal as the right wingers who think this is about the military or something like that.