Jakob isn’t runjing 100 mile weeks, more like 80 which is what many high school seniors/college runners do.
Also who says he is overracing? He is mostly racing slow races where he basically tempos 1100 and then runs a fast 400. This was his first really fast race this year.
and i KNOW you are wrong.theyre not clean at all.
Lol 3:31 in the 1500m this summer
yyy wrote:
What about Hagos Gebrihiwet. U20 WR 12.47 from Paris in 2012 (just turned 18)? This is also his current PB.
The day before his 19th birthday (in 2013) he sets his current PB in the 3000m of 7:30.
Difficult to believe he was 18 at the time.
Hilarious how almost every post in this thread turned out to be wrong. Not that I would have known better either, but along with doubting Ingebrigtsen, both Gebriwhet and Kejelcha were used as negative examples...
douglas burke wrote:
Middledist wrote:
is that a joke? thats way to fast, and ronald was prob 5 years older than what he claims
Yeah, a little sarcasm.
How's the sarcasm working out so far?
ex-runner wrote:
It's amazing that he is running such great times so young.
However the fact is he will get stuck at around 3:31 like his brothers. This kid isn't going to run 3:26.
The Kenyans couldn't care less about Jakob running 3:39 at 16 or whatever.
If he wants to win any medals like Fillip then he better work on his speed. Forget this half marathon ability nonsense.
Lol.
Too funny to read this wrote:
ex-runner wrote:
It's amazing that he is running such great times so young.
However the fact is he will get stuck at around 3:31 like his brothers. This kid isn't going to run 3:26.
The Kenyans couldn't care less about Jakob running 3:39 at 16 or whatever.
If he wants to win any medals like Fillip then he better work on his speed. Forget this half marathon ability nonsense.
Lol.
This is LRC. So steadfast and sure of their misguided opinions- enough to state them as fact. What would you expect from a bunch of wannabes?
Løp wrote:
Middledist wrote:
set a new Norwegian record at the half marathon
Hes overestimating, and I think he knows that. But fact is Jakob is in insane form. Doubt anyone here is going to realise how fast he are until he races this year. Hes running intervals together with his brothers Henrik and Filip, 3.31 and 3.32 runners with a fifht in the olympics, bronze in the WC and several medals in the European Championship. What that kid is going to run this year will make Hunter and other current American prospects look like nothing.
This guy knew what he was talking about, wins the interwebs.
Delusions of grandeur
Henrik and Filip took the two top places in a road race called Hytteplanmila with 28 min 41 secs (Henrik) and 28 min 47 secs (Filip). Sadly, Jakob didnt participate due to a minor injury. However, both Henrik and Filip relieved that Jakob "without doubt" would have shattered the two older brothers if he participated.
Gjert Ingebrigtsen is notorious for being a micromanaging helicopter dad. In the Team Ingebrigtsen documentary, you can see one of the sons yelling at his father, "Is this a dictatorship?"
He's the Norwegian Dad equivalent of the Asian Tiger Mom depicted by Amy Chua. This certainly does breed a lot of success, but burnout becomes a real risk under such intense conditions.
FlyingFast wrote:
Gjert Ingebrigtsen is notorious for being a micromanaging helicopter dad. In the Team Ingebrigtsen documentary, you can see one of the sons yelling at his father, "Is this a dictatorship?"
He's the Norwegian Dad equivalent of the Asian Tiger Mom depicted by Amy Chua. This certainly does breed a lot of success, but burnout becomes a real risk under such intense conditions.
No hes not. He is doing what they demand of him. He asks them if they wanna go all inn, if they say yes he do what is necessary for them to reach their goals. He is not pushing them to perform, he is pushing them to do the right things after they've told him they want to go all inn.
Burnout? Why would a top athlete burn out by being a professional?
Croze wrote:
FlyingFast wrote:
Gjert Ingebrigtsen is notorious for being a micromanaging helicopter dad. In the Team Ingebrigtsen documentary, you can see one of the sons yelling at his father, "Is this a dictatorship?"
He's the Norwegian Dad equivalent of the Asian Tiger Mom depicted by Amy Chua. This certainly does breed a lot of success, but burnout becomes a real risk under such intense conditions.
No hes not. He is doing what they demand of him. He asks them if they wanna go all inn, if they say yes he do what is necessary for them to reach their goals. He is not pushing them to perform, he is pushing them to do the right things after they've told him they want to go all inn.
Burnout? Why would a top athlete burn out by being a professional?
Agree, Gjert has the courage to impose the structure they need, probably know they need even when they’re arguing with it, and have agreed to. It’s hard to be the guy who has to say — no you shouuldnt move to Oslo because one of our key strengths is that we have a group, and we are together. Or to say, no, your girlfriend who is sick should not be hanging around the house — much better for dad to say it than the son to. Gjert has the courage to take the unpopular decisions that everyone knows are right, and it is super clear to all of them he loves them all regardless of track or whether or not they run.
Wow21 wrote:
Agree, Gjert has the courage to impose the structure they need, probably know they need even when they’re arguing with it, and have agreed to. It’s hard to be the guy who has to say — no you shouuldnt move to Oslo because one of our key strengths is that we have a group, and we are together. Or to say, no, your girlfriend who is sick should not be hanging around the house — much better for dad to say it than the son to. Gjert has the courage to take the unpopular decisions that everyone knows are right, and it is super clear to all of them he loves them all regardless of track or whether or not they run.
Exactly! And its not like those things are anything special. Move away from your successful training group and coach, stay away from a sick gf? These are basic things.
WJR is 59:16 (Wanjiru), so I guess that he would have a shot
ER is 59:32 (Farah), which is easier
EU23R is 1:00:09 (Wanders), easier still
Not sure what the EJR is...
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
Do I really need to give more examples? Over some thirty plus years in the sport I have seen half a dozen examples annually in my area alone, virtually all fizzled out. And that isn't including historical examples.
1500m PERFORMANCE PLACE DATE
2017 3:39.92 Stockholm (Olympiastadion) 18 JUN
2016 3:42.44 Oslo (Bislett) 09 JUN
2015 3:48.37 Stockholm (Olympiastadion) 30 JUL
2014 4:05.49 Sandnes 20 SEP
So from 2014 to 2015 he improved by 17s, then 5.93s the next year, then 2.52s, what is the trend? He is slowing is annual gains, the law of diminishing returns. He is essentially professionally trained already, going for long stints at altitude, which brings you to a new level of fitness earlier. Basically at 18 he will be at the same stage as a standard elite western miler @ 24/25. I can see him improving just enough to say 3:37 in the next year or two, which would get him into big races that are won in 3:31 and so doing he could be dragged through to 3:33/34, after that it is all incremental.
LOL
yyy wrote:
Jakob's future is in the 5000m. I think even Henrik will gravitate towards this event as he realizes that his speed is just not good enough in 1500m. Both will crack 13 min if healthy. In 10 years, this thread will resurface and we'll see whether my
prediction was crazy.
Not crazy
Thanks for the translation!
"Jakob Ingebrigtsen's so-called terskelfart, the speed you can keep over time without stiffening your muscles has increased dramatically over a year"
I want to know more about this tinklefart, as I don't have any of that.
terskelfart = LT pace/speed
adductor_injured wrote:
Thanks for the translation!
"Jakob Ingebrigtsen's so-called terskelfart, the speed you can keep over time without stiffening your muscles has increased dramatically over a year"
I want to know more about this tinklefart, as I don't have any of that.
Oh sure you don’t! We Norsemen have a saying - “Du nektet for at du leverte den” - which my online translator renders as “You denied it you supplied it!” But my unassisted English is good enough to declare that you are a stinker!