theJeff wrote:
antitheist wrote:
#1. But he doesn't. Decades after his death, some other people wrote down what they claimed he said (some of which is "impossible" seeing as how he was supposed to have been alone (desert, Gethsamane, etc).
#2. As does most religions since the dawn of human history.
#3. Why would you not love others anyway? Advance society, advance humanity, improve the world. Actual altruism, not something you do in hopes of appeasing a created deity.
It's hard to judge Christ. All we know about him is from one single book that was composed decades after his death by a myriad of people, then other people decided which of those books they liked the most hundreds of years after that, and then thousands of years later, still other people then interpret those books in whichever way suits them.
It's a little zany when you get right down to it, no?
At the end of the day, it gives an excuse to just shrug your shoulders and say, "because Jesus said so". A lot easier to just accept than to challenge.
1. That is the same with most every ancient history book. I don’t see the significance, unless you think the Bible should be judged with a different set of standards than other histories, ending your objectivity.
2. Granted. Out of context, but granted.
3. Humans are pretty sh!tty to one another, on the whole. We call it “sin nature”. See #1.
4. It isn’t “one single book”. I don’t think you know as much about the Bible as you put off. I challenge you to study it before you pretend to know what it says.
I don’t expect to change your mind on an Internet message board, but please let me know if you take me up on my challenge.
You don't see the significance in a religion based off a book of myths? The bible is not a historical book. Please refer to my other posts.
Yes, it's a collection of books into a single "book". The point being there's not extraneous, contemporary accounts of Jesus anywhere else. Which, for the things the bible claims about him, is absurd.
I've read the bible a few times. I haven't studied it in quite a while, so everything I wrote is from memory. I challenge you to convince me that there's absolutely anything literal about any of its creation or salvation myths, since I've struggled to find any science or history that does.
And if those are not to be taken literal, then why did Jesus believe they were?
That's what I simply can't shore up. You can't reconcile the bible with science or history (or if you can, I've never seen a compelling way), but not being able to do so unravels the entire thing unless you start reconfiguring the image of Jesus.