Texans get by on the cheap and now want federal bailout

ufingidiots wrote:

This thread is an example of why Trump's support continues along just fine among most of the country. Yes, most of the country supports him and will continue to do so especially in 2018 and 2020 when they will show up to vote for him. It's not Trump himself that they support it's that they would support ANYONE who stood up for them and against people like those on this thread who think of them as nothing but stupid, racist, bigoted "morans" whose opinions, concerns and lives are not even worth spitting on. Carry on, blissfully arrogant aholes!

I agree with you 100%. But the administration standing up for you is a bunch of big city, socially liberal, wall street establishment elites, with a blustering showman as the face of the operation - a man who has spent his entire life showing no regard for the working class until he could use their emotional vulnerability to gain power. Good luck!

There's plenty of money in the Federal Treasury to cover it

Remember we had enough money to cover Katrina

No, no, we are all in full support of the Republic of Texas managing its own affairs, like the blow-hard ten-gallon hat brigade always bloviates about in good times. Hell, maybe it's the perfect time to let the Ted Cruzes of the world secede, something they've talked about often in the past.Fake cowboys, fake small government jerk-offs, fake free-market cons, suck on some of that dirty grey water you little bitches.

jamin wrote:

There's plenty of money in the Federal Treasury to cover it

Remember we had enough money to cover Katrina

Houston is liberal and a sanctuary city.

And the looting has begun.

Flounder wrote:

Houston is liberal and a sanctuary city.

And the looting has begun.

NOPE. The 2016 election map shows hard red in the flood areas.

I thought blue meant liberal.

You are an extremely ignorant person. You should be castrated to prevent spreading of your defective genes.

Houston is in the blue county in the south east corner.

http://abc13.com/houston-police-focus-on-saving-lives-battling-looters/2350439/

So you really believe, as Trump would say, Lying Ted?That is a total lie.

John Utah wrote:

DeBron Lames wrote:

Guessing you didn't see all the posts where the Texans voted against Sandy relief.

It's easy for you to complain about liberals being illogical. I would argue the conservative Texans in congress are illogical because they want aid that they refuse to support for other states.

Actually, that's just hypocrisy. But that's a normal condition for the right.

Guessing you didn't see the reasons why they didn't vote for the sandy bill. The reason would be the billions of lib spending tacked onto hurricane relief. Is there anything more corrupt and s#itty than using a natural disaster to get your bulls#it federally funded project approved on the sly?

The real irony here is that the individuals who are most likely not to have flood insurance and most likely to ask for a government bailout are democrats. Houston itself is predominantly democratic (mayor is a democrat, previous term limited mayor was a democrat, voted for Clinton in the 2016 election). FEMA declares an emergency any time a certain financial criteria is met regardless of where you live in the country.

No income taxes in texas wrote:

No you do not understand. Did Texas spend money to build a wall to reduce storm surges....NO! Did Texan environmentalists review the over building in Houston that eliminated ground and grasses and trees that would reduce flooding.....NO. Were those in flood areas required to buy flood insurance....NO. Were there any government regulations regarding how buildings in flood areas should be built...NO. Levies...NO, Adequate drainage......NO.

Texas got by on the cheap and now we have to cover for them.

Most of this is an oversimplification or misleading.

Houston is not New Orleans, as it sits a little higher, therefore a seawall / levee would not have helped. Storm surge has not caused the flooding. The few feet of storm surge in the Bay has slowed the runoff from the rain, which is unavoidable.

There ARE regulations. From what I've seen, Houston's building and development codes are on par with everywhere else.

Like most cities, much of Houston is old, and was built under different engineering standards.

Nearly all cities allow development and don't require insurance in the 500 year flood plain. The 100 year flood plain is different, and people are required to buy insurance there.

Houston metro is made up of a lot of different municipalities, each with their own regulations and oversight.

Was Houston sub-par for a coastal city? I don't know. Without knowing the specifics it's impossible to quantify. I have a feeling we should be questioning the standard engineering practices of large scale city planning, not generically pointing blame at "Houston".

We as a society are generally poor planners. The California water crisis is another good example. We only adapt reactively. There is always a very large gap between experts knowing a risk/predicting something, and action being taken by a society. Even if we know the risks, we kick the can and take action only after something bad happens. That's why we weren't designing US cities for the 500 year flood from get go 250 years ago.

The difference in Texas is that property taxes are very high. People who own homes are taxed to fund schools, city and county budgets. Texans still pay federal income taxes.

There is the Texas lottery, high sales taxes, sin taxes on alcohol and cigarettes.

Flounder wrote:

I thought blue meant liberal.

You have no clue where Houston is on that electoral map, do you?

Flounder wrote:

You are an extremely ignorant person. You should be castrated to prevent spreading of your defective genes.

Houston is in the blue county in the south east corner.

http://abc13.com/houston-police-focus-on-saving-lives-battling-looters/2350439/

Ahem, Houston is near the Louisiana border. Upper part of the Gulf. Not south east corner--lower part of the Gulf.

And best of luck to you and yours as progressive, victim-based ideology continues to lose in electoral politics. You'll be better off in the long run anyway.

Gulf waters were 4 degrees hotter for Harvey:

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/28/546748502/how-a-warmer-climate-helped-shape-harvey

You have no clue wrote:

Flounder wrote:

You are an extremely ignorant person. You should be castrated to prevent spreading of your defective genes.

Houston is in the blue county in the south east corner.

http://abc13.com/houston-police-focus-on-saving-lives-battling-looters/2350439/

Ahem, Houston is near the Louisiana border. Upper part of the Gulf. Not south east corner--lower part of the Gulf.

You must be joking ryt? Houston is in Harris county which is the blue at the se corner. It is hugely Democrate NOT republican.

Most people affected here are minorities as that's what most big cities are made off.

Houston has many levies and are having to release them right now cause the water is too high. My house itself might get flooded cause of the water released from the levy today.

Any place on earth that has a hurricane sit on top of you for a week will get destroyed!!! This has never and probably will never happen again.

And all you democrates bashes Texans, what happened to we are one nation let's come together crap. And y'all wonder why the south is the way it was.

All you Texas bashers can kiss my azzzz!

GetReal863 wrote:

Gulf waters were 4 degrees hotter for Harvey:

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/28/546748502/how-a-warmer-climate-helped-shape-harvey

Nothing to do with it. If the hurricane didn't stall, it would be like any other storm.

Have a hurricane stall for 8 days anywhere and see how it turns out. It didn't stall due to higher water temps you idiot!

John Utah wrote:

This thread really reaffirms many of my worst impressions of liberals.

It's a nasty combination of hatefulness and ignorance. I can deal with the hatefulness a bit given the nature of partisanship politics. But It's the ignorance and completely illogical reasoning used that worries me. I'm not sure I've ever seen such illogical or incorrect thoughts expressed in written form. Are people really this stupid or are they just trolling. Are they that ignorant about how the world works? Just wow!

Lastly, do I recall anything like this coming from the right when Sandy hit? What goes on in the dim mind of a liberal? That's a scary place, much more frightening than any hurricane.

Unlike conservatives?

Hurricane 6 days in a row wrote:

Most people affected here are minorities as that's what most big cities are made off.

What? The flooded areas are majority red. The majority of the people affected are poor, white-trash, republicans.

P.S. Houston alone did not flood. The entire middle and central Gulf region is flooding.

P.S.S. Did you sleep in every class in high school? Seems like.