Ashton Eaton retires

When you look in the dictionary under "world class athlete," his picture is there. Ashton is the kind of guy that every father wants his son to become. Not just an extremely successful athlete but also a great human being. He is a model of how to be proud of what one has accomplished without being egotistical about it. If you saw him in the stands at the World Indoors last year, you know how much he loves his wife and wants her to be just as successful.

Bad Wigins wrote:45.00 and 13.35 may or may not get you past the first heat of a world championship. You'll likely need a big Q in a slow heat. If those are your PR's, you're definitely not world class.

You might get on a non-US/Caribbean relay team for the 400.

sir

for one of, if not the finest brain to post here regularly, you often post some drivel

tighten up !!!

his 45.00 was with fatigue in his legs earlier in day of :

- 10.23s !!

- 7.88m LJ with 2 other jumps

- 14.52m Shot with 2 other chucks

- 2.01 HJ with upto 8 attempts in total !!!

his legs musta been absolute jelly by time he lined up for that 400 & those chucks doesn't help energy needed for driving arms in a 400

it's quite reasonable to assume he couda run in a 1-off 400 that day of ideal ~ 0.75s +ve splits for 200

~ 44.5

& that doesn't look generous

his 300 split looked to be a suicidal 32-high, which means he didn't have a clue about pacing a 400 & basically on 3/4-dead body, blasted a 300 & still hung on near grim death in last 100 for a 45.00 !!!

i'll reassess above :

he couda run 44-mid/high even on those whacked legs if just paced it better - all it needed was a sprint coach telling him a few minutes before hand to back off a little to 300

then knocking off fatigue of 4 earlier events for an ideally paced 1-off 400 of :

44-flat / low

i'll conclude that, off just decathlon training & so highly developed in each event that meet that he set decathlon WR, Ashton, if he'd run an ideal 400 that day he wouda run

44-flat / low

you think that woudn't get into national team or some carib one ???

then consider if he'd actually specialised in career for 400 !!!

he was carrying at least 5 pounds of wrong muscle for a 400m guy

he wouda been looking at worst on cubic conversion at listed 185 to ideal 180 ->

( 44.00 to 44.25 ) * ( 180 / 185 )^(1/3) ->

43-mid/high

& that's still only with shedding "wrong weight"

not considering adding back "correct 400m muscle" & 100% training for 400

he seriously was capable of

43-flat

if he'd trained for 400m from gun...

rojo wrote:

minong wrote:

World class in 3 of 10 events. I'll be shocked if we ever see that again.

Which 3 in the decathlon would you say he was worldclass outright in?

Clearly the LJ (8.23m) and 400 (45.00 pb). The 400h isn't in the decathlon so what's the third?

I would say if no decath that day, he would be in 44's for the 400m

even though i believe he couda run 44-flat/low in '15 for an "ideal" "fully rested" 400 with still "wrong decathlon body" & 43-flat for it if training/weights specific to 400 from gun as kid, the event i wanted him to do so much was the 400H

he ran 48.69 as novice with poor technique in '14

i wouda luved if he had done deca for 1y more & retain gold in london this year & spent all of '18 on 100% 400H

47+ wouda been a given if stayed injury-free, but exactly where in that 47.00 - 47.99 range wouda he have ended up ???

that range doesn't have to be defining

his basic 400 speed in 400 coud still have been 43-high - 44-low range allowing for age/decrepity

that's is hugely enough speed to run 46-mid, considering Eaton had fantastic hurdles technique but didn't have enough time in '14 to organise the steps

please !!!

someone beg Ashton to give 400H just 1 more year !!!

you can break the WR...

fghjkjhgfg wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

45.00 and 13.35 may or may not get you past the first heat of a world championship. You'll likely need a big Q in a slow heat. If those are your PR's, you're definitely not world class.

You might get on a non-US/Caribbean relay team for the 400.

How dumb are you? Those are his PRs while training for the decathlon.

He could put up much faster times if he chose to specialize in anyone of those. Eaton's 2014 experiment with the 400h should prove that to you.

You are saying he could have been world class. Woulda, coulda, shoulda. So what. A spade's a spade, his PR's don't make the cut.

Oh who cares if the guy cheers for his wife. They'll be lucky to still be married in 10 yrs or if they start popping out kids once the youngest gets to be about 6 - good luck.

A well placed source at USATF has privately said that his retirement was not voluntary. That is all, no details or reasons.