Obama should declare martial law and fire the Mayor, City Hall, and the Police, and collect all police badges, uniforms, and have US Army MPs collect all Chicago PD firearms before the last paycheck is issued.
Obama should declare martial law and fire the Mayor, City Hall, and the Police, and collect all police badges, uniforms, and have US Army MPs collect all Chicago PD firearms before the last paycheck is issued.
Blacks love to blame every other community in the states for the problems that their community has created, continued & enforced.
They care more about standing in a protest line for the blm movement to blame white people for all their problems. While at the same time using it as an excuse to pillage and loot their own black communities.
You dont see BLm turning up in Louisana to helped all the affected black people in the floods.
They dont care about black on black shootings and crime.
Because they are a product of their own circumstance which they continue to create every day.
Unfortunately these posts and topics always turn to racist and bigoted remarks .
There is no getting around that. Leftist democrats and the black community continue to actually look at the problem and lay blame anywhere but on the actual black community. They take zero responsibility for the community that their culture and values have created over a number of generations.
Its pretty easy to see what type of community comes from a:
*Primarily fatherless society where a large % of women have a child out of wedlock and the man doesnt stay around
*Low education
*Having kids in their teens when they are part of that gangbanging and rebelious culture
*Force fed benefits and given no real incentive to find work
*They create these poor communites and then complain that there is no work as no businesses want to set up shop in an area where they are going to be robbed every second day
*You see continually on the leftist media of Alton sterling's mum coming on saying he was such a gentle man and it was all the polices fault. Their culture is in denial he has a wrap sheet 100 metres long and scuffles with the police while reaching for the officers gun. But the parents and community time and time again continue to avoid the "My gentle sweet little child isnt at fault routine".
*You see it every election year democrats wanting the black vote and then stuffing over those same voters every 4 years doing nothing for the black community.
Its always some one elses fault.
I just hope they get this murder thing solved very soon because I am doing my first marathon and it is going to take me 6 hours to tour the city on my run. I want to enjoy all the music, crowds and the ethnicity of each neighborhood. Don't ruin this for me! I have been training for 6 weeks for this.
Austin and Englewood wrote:
What's going on in Chicago?
Chicago just hit 3000 shot. For 2016 alone.. Wejo, if they get the guy to the hospital alive, he usually stays alive. Modern trauma care is amazing.
That 3000 doesn't include the number of shootings that don't hit anyone, which is much, much higher. The murder rate would be much higher if they learned some marksmanship skills and spent a little time on the range. Spend a little time in any of the worst neighborhoods on the west or south sides and you've got a good chance of hearing "pop - pop - pop."
The answer from the socialist revolutionaries of the Chicago Black Lives Matter scam? Get rid of the police. BLM has discovered the problem and have identified a solution.
Are you liberal LetsRunners any less preposterous?
DS: You're going to blame guns and the Supreme Court for this s...show? Go to Vermont or any rural area saturated with guns and check out the murder rates.
Roy: " As long as no one crossed any lines, there was no violence between gangs." That's completely asinine. Like many leftist arguments, yours is built on a total falsehood. Cabrini Green and Robert Taylor were rife with gang violence for decades. There were almost a thousand murders in Chiraq the year 7 year old Dantrell Davis was killed by a banger shooting out a window of Cabrini. The GD's, Vice Lords, Cobras and other smaller gangs killed each other with numbing regularity all over Cabrini.
jjjj: You're nothing if not consistent. Get off the "unions- made -black- lives -better" shtick. Do you know which state of the Union has the lowest black unemployment? Texas. Not much in the way of union power there. Do you know which state has the highest black unemployment? Illinois, squeezed in the vise of union domination over the corrupt Democrat political machine.
Why do you lefties and Democrats post on threads like this when you're clearly not serious at looking at the problem. unless you want to signal to everyone how you care about the poor blacks?
Are you willing to condemn generation after generation of blacks to these welfare ridden hell holes just so your Democrat Party can stay in power?
Amen. Too bad the regresive leftist that needs to read this....won't.
uhhhhh wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:Nope. Their are no whites there. There are no Republicans there. They are creating their own Hell on earth, bankrolled by us.
If you pay people to avoid work and have kids out of wedlock, and teach them that all their troubles are caused by someone else and that they have no chance to get ahead in life because of racism, then you get Chicago. The same thing is happening to the rest of the country, just at a slower pace.
This is the result of liberal social engineering policies. The proverbial path to Hell paved with good intentions.
Can't avoid politics, ever.
No point in reading the thread. This is the answer.
Its a shame, but spot on.
Now that we've solved that problem, let's move on.
Da BEARS!!!!!!!!
Yeah agip and his liberal cronies are too busy wetting themselves on the unofficial candidate thread and avoid conversation why liberal policy fails and is a gimmick. DiscoGary ain't afraid though!
random4 wrote:
Austin and Englewood wrote:What's going on in Chicago?
Chicago just hit 3000 shot. For 2016 alone.. Wejo, if they get the guy to the hospital alive, he usually stays alive. Modern trauma care is amazing.
That 3000 doesn't include the number of shootings that don't hit anyone, which is much, much higher. The murder rate would be much higher if they learned some marksmanship skills and spent a little time on the range. Spend a little time in any of the worst neighborhoods on the west or south sides and you've got a good chance of hearing "pop - pop - pop."
The answer from the socialist revolutionaries of the Chicago Black Lives Matter scam? Get rid of the police. BLM has discovered the problem and have identified a solution.
Are you liberal LetsRunners any less preposterous?
DS: You're going to blame guns and the Supreme Court for this s...show? Go to Vermont or any rural area saturated with guns and check out the murder rates.
Roy: " As long as no one crossed any lines, there was no violence between gangs." That's completely asinine. Like many leftist arguments, yours is built on a total falsehood. Cabrini Green and Robert Taylor were rife with gang violence for decades. There were almost a thousand murders in Chiraq the year 7 year old Dantrell Davis was killed by a banger shooting out a window of Cabrini. The GD's, Vice Lords, Cobras and other smaller gangs killed each other with numbing regularity all over Cabrini.
jjjj: You're nothing if not consistent. Get off the "unions- made -black- lives -better" shtick. Do you know which state of the Union has the lowest black unemployment? Texas. Not much in the way of union power there. Do you know which state has the highest black unemployment? Illinois, squeezed in the vise of union domination over the corrupt Democrat political machine.
Why do you lefties and Democrats post on threads like this when you're clearly not serious at looking at the problem. unless you want to signal to everyone how you care about the poor blacks?
Are you willing to condemn generation after generation of blacks to these welfare ridden hell holes just so your Democrat Party can stay in power?
Amen. Too bad the regresive leftist that needs to read this....won't.
Austin and Englewood wrote:
What's going on in Chicago?
Chicago just hit 3000 shot. For 2016 alone.. Wejo, if they get the guy to the hospital alive, he usually stays alive. Modern trauma care is amazing.
That 3000 doesn't include the number of shootings that don't hit anyone, which is much, much higher. The murder rate would be much higher if they learned some marksmanship skills and spent a little time on the range. Spend a little time in any of the worst neighborhoods on the west or south sides and you've got a good chance of hearing "pop - pop - pop."
The answer from the socialist revolutionaries of the Chicago Black Lives Matter scam? Get rid of the police. BLM has discovered the problem and have identified a solution.
Are you liberal LetsRunners any less preposterous?
DS: You're going to blame guns and the Supreme Court for this s...show? Go to Vermont or any rural area saturated with guns and check out the murder rates.
Roy: " As long as no one crossed any lines, there was no violence between gangs." That's completely asinine. Like many leftist arguments, yours is built on a total falsehood. Cabrini Green and Robert Taylor were rife with gang violence for decades. There were almost a thousand murders in Chiraq the year 7 year old Dantrell Davis was killed by a banger shooting out a window of Cabrini. The GD's, Vice Lords, Cobras and other smaller gangs killed each other with numbing regularity all over Cabrini.
jjjj: You're nothing if not consistent. Get off the "unions- made -black- lives -better" shtick. Do you know which state of the Union has the lowest black unemployment? Texas. Not much in the way of union power there. Do you know which state has the highest black unemployment? Illinois, squeezed in the vise of union domination over the corrupt Democrat political machine.
Why do you lefties and Democrats post on threads like this when you're clearly not serious at looking at the problem. unless you want to signal to everyone how you care about the poor blacks?
Are you willing to condemn generation after generation of blacks to these welfare ridden hell holes just so your Democrat Party can stay in power?
This. jjjjj's, predictably, regurgitates the same liberal meme time after time, but that's what's expected of a dyed-in-the-wool liberal who simply cannot escape groupthink, and it is perpetuated by public school bureaucracies across the land.
This bullsh*t narrative that charter schools are private schools taking public money, answering to no one, lacking credentialed and effective teachers, and promoted by the "Koch brothers" is propaganda at its worst.
My kids are in a charter school in an already "good school district." The buildings were not funded w/public money and no transportation is provided. Effectively, per pupil funding is less. Much outside fundraising is required by parents. They are accountable to the district and state legislators alike. One thing that's immediately noticeable is that there are far fewer administrators than in the other local public schools.
Despite accepting kids on the ASD spectrum, offering speech pathology and the like, and retaining PE, as well as art and music in the classroom, while also teaching Spanish from kindergarten, our school produces far superior results. Of course, the standards are higher, so attrition is going to be higher. Many kids simply aren't cut out for it. My 7th grader is in Algebra 1 and will come in to high school essentially two grades ahead.
There is an increasing demand for charter schools, because, despite liberal comic John Oliver's demagoguery and satire of the worst charter schools, they get results, by and large.
The Great Society and $6 trillion later and what do we have to show for it? Don't forget, the KKK was started by the Democratic Party and LBJ infamously said something along the lines of, we'll have those nigg*rs voting for us for the next 100 years. Really great narrative and lot of good that's done for the black community...
Liberals pay lip service to the black community. Colin Kaepernick is half-white (like Obama), was orphaned and adopted by white parents (Obama), was offered a scholarship by only one college whose coach was white, gets paid $114 million to sit on the bench, and feels like he is speaking for his brothers being "victimized" by white police? Go do something in your own community with that money or quit and go become a cop if you want to really make a difference rather than becoming a notorious symbol. Go start a business in the inner city. You'll never see it. Once again, lip service.
I guess BLM only when the victims are shot by white police, not by their "own" in the city where Obama cut his political teeth. Most racially divisive President and administration ever. What's wrong with Chicago? The political leadership or lack thereof. All of the pensions have been looted too. Cronyism. Nice work Rahm. Give yourself a raise.
In a word: "Darwinism" as in survival of the fittest.
It's healthy for society to rid itself of its worst members.
NeckBeard wrote:
In a word: "Darwinism" as in survival of the fittest.
It's healthy for society to rid itself of its worst members.
If you start talking about racial IQ we could have a race riot on these boards.
Da BEARS!!!!!
Chicago Tribune had the stat today that only about 30% of murders are solved. To me that's staggering. Imagine walking around knowing there's less than a 1 in 3 chance you'll be locked up for killing someone?
The Ferguson Effect is also taking a toll on the city, especially the parts where crime is at its worst.
Very interesting article about how the police have pulled way back:
http://nypost.com/2016/07/09/how-the-ferguson-effect-is-destroying-chicago/
Investigatory stops by police are down 90%
sam w wrote:
The Ferguson Effect is also taking a toll on the city, especially the parts where crime is at its worst.
Very interesting article about how the police have pulled way back:
http://nypost.com/2016/07/09/how-the-ferguson-effect-is-destroying-chicago/Investigatory stops by police are down 90%
Who can blame them? The mainstream narrative and "peaceful protesting" focuses on the 1% of rogue cops, and the other 99% are in harm's way more than ever. I'm sure the "Just Us" Department will investigate this insidious "pulling back" just as vigorously as the Michael Brown case.
DiscoGary wrote:
So the KKK and charter school options are what's killing 500 people per year in Chicago? You guys have got to be kidding.
Of course not, it's the food stamps and PC that's killing them.
dsrunner wrote:
attempted to improve handgun control several years ago and the far right dominated supreme court (the same folks that said Bush won Florida) stopped it. These days, any criminal can drive a few miles into Indiana and, with no background check, buy a gun from the offspring of a KKK member.
https://secure.in.gov/library/2848.htm
You do realize that any gun purchased out of state has to go through a FFL in Illinois, where you require a FOID, to make your gun legs right?
And I'm sure all those gang members have a FOID or even a CCL.
If you keep clamping down on the admittedly corrupt officers with blanket rules and regulations and jumping in bed with the ACLU, then the decent offers trying to do good work are going to back off the trouble areas for fear of trouble themselves.
As such the criminals get what they want. Free turf to roam like the wild, wild west.
BLM has culpability for this. Own it!
As we know Chicago is having its problems and you can write books on the reasons why. I will share my experience and how I see whats happening and one missed opertunity .
I'm a white male who was born on the far Southside (1960) in the Roseland neighborhood. I've been watching what has happened to the City from the suburbs since having to move out in 1970 because of one too many bricks thrown through windows and racial tensions.
My parents had to "give" our house away as did all of our neighbor's because of the influx of lower income/ educated African Americans that had moved up from the south. These people came up and were given great deals on homes in nice communities and had no money and no clue how to live and maintain a home. At the time the area that was changing was rather large roughly 5 miles by 10 miles.
The African American weren't comming because because of a big labor boom. Very few knew how to open and run a small business. From what I have learned a big reason for the movement was about the politics and votes. Come up north vote a certain way and you will be taken care of. Yes there was some industry in the area back then but not to support the amount of people that needed direction with no leadership.
Since the 70's nothing has realy changed in Roseland and the surrounding areas along with the west side. Yes the hispanic population has increased substatially and has brought their own problems to the area. Some of the stronger leaders in the area's are those of gangs. The major African American leaders/politicians over the years have never been able to get a handle on the problems and may have done more harm than good. Jobs were never plentiful for the amount of people that where in need.
Talk to African-American's over the years they will tell you part of the problem is how hard it is to open up a small business in the area because banks won't lend them money. They are being held down, held back.
I'm not sure what the answer is but whatever the solution is it will have to come from the African American people. They would need a strong leader/spokesman with some money and backing to start change. What a legacy it could have been if Operah Winfrey (instead of running from the city that made her) would would have taken her billion plus dollars (with no offsprings to leave money too) had backed a group of African American leaders to form a say Chicago African American Business Council that backed very low interest loans to qualified borrowers. Have a system in place that included mentors to show the people how to run a small business. Have security detail that protected the businesses when up and running. Shake down other prominent African Americans; Michael Jordan to name one.Take donations from affluent people (black and white) who watched and went to her shows to help get things started financially. Bring in the Obama's for a roll. The list could be extensive .
I believe thinking outside the box is what it is going to take to change what is happening in Chicago. The African American leaders blaming all the different forms of goverment has to stop. Obviously whatever the cure isnt going to happen overnight and has to start somewhere. The Chicago African American community needs to figure it out themselves otherwise the killings will continue at an alarming rate.
"Talk to African-American's over the years they will tell you part of the problem is how hard it is to open up a small business in the area because banks won't lend them money. They are being held down, held back."
Banks are not social programs. Banks lend money to people and business that they think will pay them back, with interest.
If someone is going to open a business and needs a loan but all their financials are a mess and they look to be a HUGE risk, there is no way a bank is going to, nor should they, give that person a loan.