Red Dirt road wrote:
Interesting that people feel they can't train properly without a real track and yet everyone aspires to go to Kenya and train on that red dustbowl of crappy footing.
What is your point? Do you think Kenyan elites don't do speedwork on a 400m track?
800 On Pure Hate wrote:
Red Dirt road wrote:Interesting that people feel they can't train properly without a real track and yet everyone aspires to go to Kenya and train on that red dustbowl of crappy footing.
What is your point? Do you think Kenyan elites don't do speedwork on a 400m track?
The point is that you don't even need a track.
Red Dirt road wrote:
800 On Pure Hate wrote:What is your point? Do you think Kenyan elites don't do speedwork on a 400m track?
The point is that you don't even need a track.
I don't need shoes either. Good point.
800 On Pure Hate wrote:
Red Dirt road wrote:The point is that you don't even need a track.
I don't need shoes either. Good point.
Correct.
800 On Pure Hate wrote:
What is your point? Do you think Kenyan elites don't do speedwork on a 400m track?
Sometimes they do. Sometimes they don't. Training for the 800m vs the 5000 does not mean you need exact distances. All you need to do is hold a particular effort level for a certain amount of time. Measure it with your car odometer if you want, but it really isn't important. You don't NEED to run exactly 200.0 meters. Your body knows time and effort not distance.
Maybe you don't NEED to run exactly 200.0 meters. I do NEED to train with exactly 200.0 meters.
Maybe your body does not know distance. My body does know distance. It certainly knows if I ran 220 meters or 180 meters.
I'm evaluating myself by how fast I run 800.00 meter race, not how much effort it takes to run 2 minutes and not how far I run with a certain effort level.
Each mid-distance elite does a significant amount of precisely measured interval work on a standard track. That's the point.
Maybe you don't NEED to run exactly 200.0 meters. I do NEED to train with exactly 200.0 meters.
Maybe your body does not know distance. My body does know distance. It certainly knows if I ran 220 meters or 180 meters.
I'm evaluating myself by how fast I run 800.00 meter race, not how much effort it takes to run 2 minutes and not how far I run with a certain effort level.
800 On Pure Hate wrote:
. My body does know distance. It certainly knows if I ran 220 meters or 180 meters.
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Then you don't even need a wheel to measure that strip of dirt road.
Just let your body speak to you.
Red Dirt road wrote:
Interesting that people feel they can't train properly without a real track and yet everyone aspires to go to Kenya and train on that red dustbowl of crappy footing.
Good pint and Kenya's on the state Dept's. Shit list....travel warning.
800 On Pure Hate wrote:
Each mid-distance elite does a significant amount of precisely measured interval work on a standard track. That's the point.
Maybe you don't NEED to run exactly 200.0 meters. I do NEED to train with exactly 200.0 meters.
Maybe your body does not know distance. My body does know distance. It certainly knows if I ran 220 meters or 180 meters.
I'm evaluating myself by how fast I run 800.00 meter race, not how much effort it takes to run 2 minutes and not how far I run with a certain effort level.
No, each elite mid distance person does not. I myself and a few others I know often did speedwork by time not precise track measured distances.
No, you don't NEED exactly 200 meters. You WANT exactly 200 meters.
No, your body does not know distance. There are no rulers or gps in your cells. Your body knows effort and time.
Your last paragraph makes no sense. We are talking about 200m intervals. Why are you bringing up 2 minutes or 800 meters?
You do not have the luxury of being able to use a track. Instead of using common alternatives, you choose to be stubborn and irrational.
I hop a fence to run on a nice track and have talked to people who work there either setting up for a football game or the next day's track meet and have never had an issue.
"Hey, how are you? I'm just trying to run some intervals. Is it cool if you move that water keg into the grass? Thanks!"
No issue.
"Hey, how are you? Are you setting up for a meet tomorrow? Oh, they're going to be doing the pole vault? Damn. That's gnarly. Is it ok if I just do some intervals while you set up? Thanks!"
No issue.
What kind of terrible city do you kids live in?