If you can run a 5 min mile what can you run a 2 mile in?

162430 wrote:

Obviously, this depends on whether a person is speed/distance oriented. It also depends on the amount of aerobic development that a runner has. For the average 5:00 HSer, I would say that 11:00 is a very reasonable 2-mile time. However, a HSer (or anyone else, really) who has actually worked on developing their aerobic system (nothing crazy, let's say 45 mpw for 6+ months) should be able to go 10:40s.

I had a sophomore who went 4:57/10:41 this past year. He has very little speed (2:12 800 PR, 1:01 400 PR), but had been running 40-50 mpw for about 7-8 months at that time. Our crosstown rivals had 3 guys right around 5:00; 4:59/10:52, 5:00/10:59, and 4:57/11:07.

On another note, the poster claiming that a HS 9:30 only requires 4:30-4:40 is on crack. This may be accurate for some exceptions, but it certainly is not the rule. Most 9:30 HS kids can run low-mid 4:20s.

I tend to be more distance oriented, but my HS PRs were 1:59, 4:31, and 9:32. The mile is just a shitty distance for me I guess.

Bring back Right turn Tracks wrote:

illegitimate wrote:

What do you guys think is the mile equivalent of a 9:30 2 mile for a high schooler?

4:30-4:40

I can't say this is sound advice. 4:45-4:45 for a 9:30 ... only being equivalent to 4:40?

I would say 4:22 at the fastest, and 4:29 at the slowest.

MTRaceTimer wrote:

I ran a 4:58 in the 1600m, and a 10:24 in the 3200m in the same meet, 90 minutes apart.

Thank goodness someone pointed out a same-day PB. I was surprised to see so many "in the same week" qualifiers. It seemed like in HS a PB day usually yielded a pair of PBs in both the 1600 and the 3200 because it meant some other shmuck on the other team was either a little faster than you and you got towed to a new best, or he was right on your heels the whole race and pushed you to a new record (or for me... getting dusted in the straight in the 1600 and still being pissed 90 minutes later to kicker earlier on the guy in the longer race).

FWIW - My assumption would be that a guy who is putting it on the line to get under 5:00 should set a goal of around 10:40 for the 3200. When I was helping coach some college women, the ladies who were right about 5:00 for the mile were always shooting for sub 10 for the 3k, so that upholds the theory as well.

I'm assuming the OP is a high school kid, and my advice would be: "Don't worry too much about time!" Just get out there and just race baby! Some of the best runners I've had the please knowing as teammates and friends, didn't give a flying fvck about time in most races - they only cared about making sure as many people were behind them as possible when they crossed the line!

Good luck to all those 5-minute-mile-warriors! Train hard and have fun!

It all depends!

My freshman year in high school I only ran 4:46 for the mile but ran a 9:55 two mile. Stuck in first gear!

Soph year my PRs were 4:50 and 11:08. I ran 4:59 the same day I ran the 11:08. I also ran a 2:08 800 the same day I ran the 4:50. I was a bit more speed oriented.

Junior year I ran 2:06, 4:47 and 10:50. I was on the 4x800 team that was eyeing a state qualifier so I focused on the shorter stuff and only ran the 3200 once and that was early in the season. I think I could have gone faster.

Senior year I ran 2:08, 4:40 and 10:34. I only ran the 3200 two or three times and I think I could have run faster as my "rivals" that I went back and forth with in the 3200 ran between 10:05 - 10:15 later that season.

There's no debate here.

A 5-minute mile is equivalent to a 10:40 2-mile.

HS PR's of 5:02 and 10:49 a long time ago. Interestingly in the 10:49 I split 5:02. I imagine the second mile hurt a lot.

10:40 give or take 6 seconds

5:00 = 10:48. always has, always will.

Freshman year: 4:50--11:26. Off of 3-6 miles per day.

Sophomore year: 4:30--10:04. Off of 6-12 miles per day.

Junior year: 4:26--9:46. Off of 6-12 miles per day.

Senior year: 4:19--9:29. Off of 55 miles per week.

Jumping forward to senior year of college--4:15 full mile--8:26 3k--14:46 5k. Off of 80-100 miles per week in singles.

Freshman year: 4:50--11:26. Off of 3-6 miles per day.

Sophomore year: 4:30--10:04. Off of 6-12 miles per day.

Junior year: 4:26--9:46. Off of 6-12 miles per day.

Senior year: 4:19--9:29. Off of 55 miles per week.

Jumping forward to senior year of college--4:15 full mile--8:26 3k--14:46 5k. Off of 80-100 miles per week in singles.

Freshman year: 4:50--11:26. Off of 3-6 miles per day.

Sophomore year: 4:30--10:04. Off of 6-12 miles per day.

Junior year: 4:26--9:46. Off of 6-12 miles per day.

Senior year: 4:19--9:29. Off of 55 miles per week.

Jumping forward to senior year of college--4:15 full mile--8:26 3k--14:46 5k. Off of 80-100 miles per week in singles.

lolcatz wrote:

Please share what your 2 miles were when you were around 5-flat.

When my 1600 Pr was 5:01 I ran 10:53.

However, there was a kid in my league that ran 5:06 and 10:30.

My all-time favorite was the state champ who ran 4:29 and 9:22 on year and the next year ran 4:22 and 9:06 for respective PRs.

I think when you're training is geared towards the 1600 it's safe to add anywhere between 20 and 30 seconds per mile, but alot of depends on your body type/strengths.

4:58, 10:51

In a one man on the track trying to run even splits time trial environment I'd say if you can run 82s for 11:00 you can squeak under 5 with a target pace of 74 for 400m and if you can run 5 by running 74/75s you should be able to hold on for 11:00 using a target pace of 81/82s or you are really under training.

That seems about spot on. In my late 40s, I ran 4:48 and 10:22 at about the same time...

Double_Dog wrote:

short arms, big head wrote:

the 2-mile was before the mile in the event order??

The 3200m is always before the 1600m in Illinois

Yes the 2 mile was the first track event.

Also, typo the one mile was 1 and 1/2 hr. later last event before the relays

What is WRONG with this website, the curser stuck for a few minutes while i was posting this!!!!

is 5:07 close enough? I ran an 11:09 3200 as a junior at my peak.

Senior year. I ran 4:45 and 10:36 at my peak fitness.

My very first meet of my senior year was the closest I was to right on 5 minutes.

I ran 4:58 after running a 10:45 3200 earlier in the day.

Jr Year Mileage. 10-15mpw

Sr Year Mileage 25ish Mpw.

9:50 2 mile road race as a junior. Never ran a mile time.