Hamza Driouch (Update: BANNED)

J.R. wrote:

If I understand this correctly, he was banned due to biological passport variations, not from failing a drug test.

What's the difference to you?

You don't believe drugs work.

Another Nike athlete...not shocked...

Interesting to see Ammar moussa defending/offended by Nick Willis' simple tweet of stating who driouch's coach was during his breakout year. His Twitter is littered with anti Semitic posts/pics as well.

glad to see I wasn't the only one to notice this. Knew moussa's hs coach, always rooted for the kid on that principle alone, but not anymore. kinda sad to see, b/c he *could* have been a poster child for a moderate muslim, instead he's helping keep the stereotype alive. oh well.

I agree with ammar, adens has many of elite athletes , never heard before any of his previous and current athletes been busted apart from hamza

/Abubaker kaki 2 world indoor champ

/Ismail Ahmed silver in Olympic 2008

/Makhloufi Olympic champ 2012

/Ayanleh Suliman world indoor champ

/G dibaba indoor champ world records H

/Saad al asmari Ksa 3k s/c world champ Bronze 1995 , and many others

The fact is hamza was dealing with Al garroge coach during world J

There are lots of people who know before it is announced in the IAAF newsletter. IAAFs bio passport APMU, the Quatari federation, anyone Driouch tells it to. Often bans are announced by the national federation before it makes IAAFs newsletter. (Take Jeptoo for instance.) tilastopaja probably just had a good souce there somewhere.

Bio passport cases can take a very long time, with letters going back and forth, and a number of doctors getting involved as medical experts for the defendant.

In theory the meeting where the Qatar National Anti-Doping Commission handed out the ban was held late in December 2014. The ban is running from 31 December 2014, the last day of the old WADA code.

"I agree with ammar, adens has many of elite athletes , never heard before any of his previous and current athletes been busted apart from hamza"

-...and you think makhloufi is/was clean? You know that Santa Claus isn't real, right? You lost your credibility the minute you wrote "al garroge".

Tourette's Tours all I can say Makhloufi is clean until now unless u can prove the opposite .

Regarding algarroge and the credibility Whatever !!!!!

Yeah, and Marion Jones never tested positive either. Nice play from the Lance book there. Go on believing what you've foolishly chosen to believe. Incidentally, I think you've missed the point. It is spelled, "El Gerrouj". When you type things or say things with poor enough spelling that it is difficult to interpret, you instantly lose credibility. Of all people, I would think someone who was a track fan would know this name.

troette wrote:

In theory the meeting where the Qatar National Anti-Doping Commission handed out the ban was held late in December 2014. The ban is running from 31 December 2014, the last day of the old WADA code.

So if he was banned from December 31st why the hell was he in Ethiopia training with Mo Farah and others?

Tourette's Tours u r pathetic , for me it was not about the spelling my point I think is taken otherwise why u replied.

U know better right , well done .

U just sitting some where in u home or office and typing things simply without evidence , u may know and I really doubted how athletes work hard and put the body in extreme condition to be top class athlete. Finally u fingers not the same.

You're going to have to get a better Google translator, worrier. I have zero idea what the eff you're even trying to say. Try this: how about not blindly following someone and refusing to believe what is obvious just because they're muslim? I mean, that's the whole impetus behind your strong comments, right? You're a muslim, so you feel the need to defend them, right? Has that ever crossed your mind how ridiculous and "pathetic" (your word) that way of thinking is?

Allow to me to clarify my tweets. I wasn't defending any drug cheats or anything of the sort. I just am reluctant to accuse all those associated with one convicted drug cheat, especially without proof of knowledge. I understand the desire to scrutinize parties associated with a drug cheat, but I misunderstood desired scrutinization as unwarranted accusation.

But the real reason I'm commenting on this thread at all is because of the discussion of my actions and how they reflect on my religion. I'm confused as to how I keep any stereotypes alive. I'd love to hear why you feel that way. If anything I try to represent my religion to the best of my ability to counter any type of negative stereotypes, but I may be flawed in my approach. Feel free to enlighten me in what I've done wrong that has led you to believe that. My email is linked.

Other than El G (for obvious reasons), have there been any Morroccan or Algerian athletes that haven't eventually been busted (including Trafeh). They are even more shameless than the Russians, except that they have faded off their heavy podium presence ca. 2000, while the Russians just keep throwing more bodies into the pharmaceutical abyss.

Kwandry wrote:

Other than El G (for obvious reasons), have there been any Morroccan or Algerian athletes that haven't eventually been busted (including Trafeh). They are even more shameless than the Russians, except that they have faded off their heavy podium presence ca. 2000, while the Russians just keep throwing more bodies into the pharmaceutical abyss.

Well leaving out El G, here's a list of studs...

Said Aouita

Abdelati Iguider

Azzedine Sediki

Mohammed Moustaoui

Zakaria Maazouzi

Brahim Lahlafi

Salah Hissou

Hicham Bellani

Ismail Sghyr

Noureddine Morceli

Taoufik Makhloufi

Tarek Boukensa

Anter Zerguelaine

Tourette's Tours pathetic pathetic pathetic u completely changed the subject to religion,look i defend what i believe and i don`t accuse like you just because i suspect , innocent until proven guilty ,

have u ever heard this wisdom Dogs bark and the caravan walk

I meant to say "recent", like in the last ten years. Makh is just a matter of time, so I guess that leaves Iguider. The rest look like pre-2005 guys.

squeakyclean wrote:

Kwandry wrote:

Other than El G (for obvious reasons), have there been any Morroccan or Algerian athletes that haven't eventually been busted (including Trafeh). They are even more shameless than the Russians, except that they have faded off their heavy podium presence ca. 2000, while the Russians just keep throwing more bodies into the pharmaceutical abyss.

Well leaving out El G, here's a list of studs...

Said Aouita

Abdelati Iguider

Azzedine Sediki

Mohammed Moustaoui

Zakaria Maazouzi

Brahim Lahlafi

Salah Hissou

Hicham Bellani

Ismail Sghyr

Noureddine Morceli

Taoufik Makhloufi

Tarek Boukensa

Anter Zerguelaine

Kwandry wrote:

I meant to say "recent", like in the last ten years. Makh is just a matter of time, so I guess that leaves Iguider. The rest look like pre-2005 guys.

squeakyclean wrote:

Well leaving out El G, here's a list of studs...

Said Aouita

Abdelati Iguider

Azzedine Sediki

Mohammed Moustaoui

Zakaria Maazouzi

Brahim Lahlafi

Salah Hissou

Hicham Bellani

Ismail Sghyr

Noureddine Morceli

Taoufik Makhloufi

Tarek Boukensa

Anter Zerguelaine

So you meant to say recently, yet you mention El G and also say "that haven't eventually been busted, meaning a longer time frame. I realize you are just a troll/hater, but you aren't very good at it. I didn't post the recent guys, I posted the greats. But yes there are plenty of recent Moroccan/Algerian national class runners who have not tested positive, as hard as that may be for you to believe.

troette wrote:

Bio passport cases can take a very long time, with letters going back and forth, and a number of doctors getting involved as medical experts

Because the testing is a bogus pseudo science, so the drug testers/perpetrators need time to build up the innuendo and self doubt.