sub 25 8K

My girlfriend and I live in southern ca. She always comments that guys that run under 25 are never attractive in any way, shape, or form. I am not too close to doing it and she thinks I'm hot so I'd rather have my looks then be in that top 9% for a couple of years in my life.

good for you and her. we don't need to hear that.

Yeah, times must have changed or something. I go to a DIII school. We have over 100 plaques of DIII champions, but there is old ones that have NCAA champion written on them. As in over-all NCAA champ, all divisions. I guess they used to do that????

Mark Conover made all american in all 3 divisions. 1, 2 and 3. Conover went to Humboldt state where I beleive he was D3 champion. As you are suggesting, he was allowed to run in the D1 meet and qualified as an all-american. The next year Humboldt moved to D2 and he added D2 all-american to his resume.There are lots of great athletes that come from D3. It is not a joke the way most of the a-holes on this board would like to beleive.Also, 25M 8K is very fast. Most people, myself included, never get close to that fast.

yup wrote:

Yes, Doug. I believe at least one D3 XC runner even earned All-America status.

DIII natty winners past results 1999 23:42 Davis...2000 24:47 McCoskey...2001 24:16 Haglund...2002 25:01 Bak...Moen 2003 another sub 25

Undecided wrote:

It's 31:15 10K pace. That may be better than the average person but does anyone consider a 31:15 to be anything to write home about?

i would definitely write home, that is, of course, if i knew how to write. . .

theodore logan wrote:

Undecided wrote:

It's 31:15 10K pace. That may be better than the average person but does anyone consider a 31:15 to be anything to write home about?

i would definitely write home, that is, of course, if i knew how to write. . .

There are probably no more than 300-400 people in this country that can run 31:15 or better. With a population of about 300,000,000, there is only one of these runners for every million people. Maybe nothing to write home about, but pretty impressive anyway. I used to be in that category 10 years ago, but it is unreachable for me now. If there was some way for me to do it again, that would be my Olympic gold.

I think what skews everybody’s vision is that these 300-400 people post on here and so they act like 31:15 10K is shit. On top of this, there are probably an equal number of bull shitters posting that act like they can do 31:15 when in reality it is more like 36:15.

Hell yes!! I am sick of these cocky posts. In my opinion, 31:15 is smoking fast. I used to live in Seattle region and that performance would place you in top 3 on most road races (and bring you some cash as well). If sub 25 for the 8k was a xc performance, I would say twice "hell yes". That's an equivalent of 30:15-30:30 10k... And that's fast! You don't have to be a winner of DI XC or on the track to be a great runner... Unless you were born with the name Kip and at 8000ft altitude, and you were able to run sub 30min in 10000m after 5 wks of training, then you should be proud of yourself.

It would be interesting to see how many people here can go sub 5:00 pace for 10k

does anyone thin 25 min on the OK state course is considered fast? (no comments if you have never even seen the course either, you smartass little 18 minute 5k HS runners)

The results from Roy Griak this year shows that is ridiculous to say that a sub-25:00 8K is average or unimpressive. In the Gold (D1&2) race, 26 men went sub-25:00. One other runner did it in the Maroon (D3) race (Josh Moen of Wartburg, who would have finished 14th in the Gold race). That makes 27 sub-25:00 runners out of a total of 575 finishers. I know that not all the top teams were at the meet, but it remains on the biggest and most competitive invites of the XC season. I'd say if you finish in the top 5% at Griak you are doing great and certainly far from average.

dickhead wrote:

does anyone thin 25 min on the OK state course is considered fast? (no comments if you have never even seen the course either, you smartass little 18 minute 5k HS runners)

I think it is quite an accomplishment to be under 25 on OK State's course. Look at some of the guys who have done it in the past fews years.

Starting at 24:40 in 2003

Luis Bordes- 24:41

Scott Rantall- 24:46 (Big 12 10k champion 29:20s for 10k)

Josephat Boit- 24:49 (Seen a lot of him recently)

Cameron Schwehr- 24:50

Michael Colin- 24:55

Benson Cheserek- 24:56

Dale Dexter- 24:57

Josh Harper- 24:58

Mike Poe- 24:58 (Footlocker West Champion, standout freshman)

Mike Thompson- 25:00

Ian Burrell- 25:02

Mike Swope- 25:02

2004

Luis Bordes 24:41

Joe Gray 24:46

David Jankowski 24:46

Laurent Ngirakamaro 24:48

Benson Chesarek 24:50

Greg Rouault 24:51

Eric Gross 24:53

Sean McCabe 24:56

Said Ahmed 25:00

That sucks.I run sub 5 pace per mile on a 10 mile threshold run.My fat ass sister Babeboody run's sub 25/8km.

Sub 25 is a fast time to run especially on a cross country course

I ran a 25min 8k on the track for a workout last track--- alternating pace per 1k/800m. My best ever on a flat grassy cross country course is 25:20; I ran 25:10 @ Standford, 25:20 for a hilly road 8k course. The 25 minutes barrier is a barrier for me, but I don't think its fast on the grand scale of running. Cross country times like that are relative to the course (course conditions), and what you think is fast...breaking 25 min on a cross country course would be fast for me. Its definately slow foR the other 20-30 guys who always seem to beat me at CROSS invites...