Will Leer Ran Stupid

PIL wrote:

Hardloper,

I think for a 1500m specialist a solid 3K does show fitness.

I don't think anyone is arguing he had a shot at winning, I think people are frustrated he did not put himself in position for a higher finish. He ran defensively and without purpose.

He does have a history of spacing out-didn't he say he miscounted laps in his 3:52?

+1. He looked like he was running outdoors, and that the home straight might be 100m long. He also seemed to be left at the gate a bit when the leaders picked up the pace. So he from DFL to DFL-and-a-long-way-back.

Soulemain ran it like he knows something about indoors .. watch how much effort he expends to maintain his position and control of the race when Birgen tries to pass. 3 times. Indoors, more than ever, is about position. DFL is not a good position.

I think Leer could've run a much smarter race, and has the ability to have done so.

IMO.

PIL wrote:

I would be interested to here what Will Leer says about his race. My guess he says something similar about how he ran.

So he says he went against his coaches advice and stayed at the back to keep out of trouble. Whenever he tried to pass the pack closed up and he couldn't get past. He hoped the field would thin out in the last 300 and he could pick them off one by one but it never happened. Lesson learned.

At some point, you realize from the fans that you have talent. Sponsors want to sign you. People get nervous to be near you. It's an unreal experience and it takes a minute to think about how to respond to that kind of attention, because you're every word is being analyzed and criticized. You do have to be a lot more careful. It does feel like confinement. You are pressured to run a certain way, wear different clothes, smile for the camera or else people are disappointed. When the pressure rises, it makes you want to rebel against what you're supposed to do. I'm not whinning, you shouldn't feel sorry for me because i have fans. Just explaining how weird his all is. You realize you have power. You have the power to change companies and lives. You also have the power to say nothing. To end the war, to turn down the heat. Those decisions have to be made carefully. And whether you like it or not, odds are someone will disagree with you or get offended. I've learned not to worry about that anymore. I've learned to focus and do what my gut tells me to do. When my gut tells me to say nothing to the fans, that's what I do.

:) *your

Wait, don't feel sorry for me because I have fans? I mean, don't feel sorry for me because I am going through this and took a hit from the fans. *whining

I was thinking that too, while searching for some kind of reason. That Leer somehow thought the home straight was 100m long and that a sprint might actually achieve something. Not much of an excuse when he, of the entire field, has the most regular exposure to indoor racing.

Baby boy wrote:

How dare you. yes, he should have made a move earlier but 6th is still osum for an american

'For an american' sucks. They are all humans.

Calling you out wrote:

You, who are not an international caliber athlete, are not allowed to say anything or pass any judgement on the actions of those that are. This is because you do not nearly have 1/1000 of the ability of these people. I don't care if it's Leer, Cain, Rupp, or a fvcking fish with legs. Shame on you for even thinking you can comment on this, troll or no troll.

In closing, fvck off

Bravo "Calling you out"!!!! I nominate this man next president of USATF. This is why running is so unpopular of a sport compared to things like MLB, NBA, NFL. Could you imagine if those sports allowed just anybody to go online and discuss opinions about the sport?! It would be horrible. Those sports would quickly become extremely unpopular.

If we want our sport of running to succeed, we need to take it upon ourselves to immediately go onto all message boards dedicated to running and begin to mercilessly post on them as often as possible about how nobody is allowed to post on those running discussion boards.

Only if we manage to end all discussion and "buzz" around our sport will our sport join the ranks of the most watched sports. This goes for water cooler/office discussions as well. Could you imagine if you heard somebody on monday morning talking about sunday night football at work?! The NFL would go out of business from lack of spectating within weeks if they allowed that kind of talk from amateurs!

:) I don't think it's a good idea to fan the flames is all I'm saying. People should have the right to talk at the water coolers.

I heard that there is a Russian invasion of Ukraine. Ukraine is near Poland. I hear that Salazar is Cuban and the USA had a cold war with Cuba which was really a proxy for Russia. So by transitive property, Alberto is a Cuban spy for Russia and intends to invade Poland. He has already infiltrated the USATF and has now has overtaken the IAAF.

This is what happens when the dogs get hungry and only a few faces can represent the sport when there is only so much meat to go around.

Of course there is always the Brojos with their track zombie apocalypse agenda who have assured their interns that all USA runners (other than those paying a fee to them) are doped.

Calling you out wrote:

Who are you to judge the actions of a man who does easy runs faster than your mile pr?

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Well that's a stupid statement. That doesn't mean that he is some sort of expert on race strategy.

HardLoper wrote:

minong wrote:

So fire all restaurant critics, movie reviewers, baseball, football, basketball writers, beat reporters, sports columnists, political opinion makers, talk show hosts (whether it's sports, politics, entertainment), school boards (hey they're not teachers!) and anyone else that forms opinions on topics outsource their profession.

Ok then.

No. Restaurant critics, movie reviewers, ....... , are paid to do what they do because they are good at it.

LetsRunners are horrible at what they do, do not realize just how little they know about running, and not coincidentally, they are not paid for it.

aren't you really slow?

If your race objective is to podium rather than get the win, then sitting with the pack is the best strategy. For Leer, arguably not the best runner in the race, shooting for bronze would be a reasonable objective. The problem is this same strategy makes sense for nearly everybody in the race. The field in these races is faster than US athletes have experienced in the short US season prior to World's making it easy fall to way back as the pack finally makes a move. I think this hurt Ajee Wilson and Moser (she's a better runner than Sifuentes who finished third) also.

The only persons stupid within this thread would be the OP and those agreeing with the OP.

Let's be honest

Jordan Hasay and Mary Cain did not show because of the ill advised negative media coverage largely created by this site.

Jordan and Mary represent the greatest boost to young girl running in the past, present and future.

We missed seeing them because of sites like this. What a shame.

It is silly to state the Will Leer is stupid.

Factor in fatigue from qualifying, and the fact that indoors is a different experience than outdoors, and I think he walks away from this race with confidence.

Staying at the back for the first 800 meters was fine. I just don't think he had the juice to move up today. Ok, that's racing. This happened to Steve Scott on occasion back in the day - he got right back at it.

This guy has done well coming from Division III program, and he seems to improve a bit each year. Only on this board, filled as it is with negative, insecure and self important runners (why I am so glad I left the sport when I did and obtained a meaningful career away from it), could such negative comments be made.

I think he did have the juice. He admitted his strategy didn't work and that he didn't follow his coach's advice. He implied that he didn't really care that much about indoors but he would say that, wouldn't he.

I don't know what race you clowns were watching, but I saw a guy who did his best to hold on and he moved up not because he had "too much" left but because a couple guys in front of him were fading. Those of you who say he was three seconds behind or whatever need to learn basic concepts such as "three" and "seconds" because Leer was never that far back -- at the bell he was about two seconds back and his betters were simply running away from him. Should be have pulled a Manzano and just jogged it in? Or pulled a Rupp and stepped off the track faking a foot injury?