IF someone were a beginning runner and perhaps wanted to use the HR to do intervals I think it'd be great. Unless you've done a lot of track work you are not going to know how to set your rest time and effort by time.
HR at least give you an acurate guide to rest and effort.
I can't believe some of you are cracking on water bottles...
Some of my longer runs i'd be dead now if i didn't have a water bottle to down as i ran along the way...
I'm not slow at all either most of my longer runs are in and around 6:15-6:30 ( which to some is slow but for a long run of 20 that's not to bad)
During the summer, not the winter, i don't leave the house without my waterbottle strap...
Simple put some people need some things more than other. I know i sweat alot more than most so after 8 miles i'll die without water haha....to say one thing is stupid just because you don't use it..doesn't make it stupid...
but oh well i'll catch hell for this anyways...as always from wonderfully cheery letsrun posters...waddle on friends
My water bottle experience, whcih is anecdotal at best...
Two weeks ago did a twelve miler with a running partner. No water available on an out and back trail run. By the time we finished the run, we were both dehydrated to the point of no longer sweating. Completed the run in 1:28. Yesterday, I froze a small Crystal Geyer water bottle, ran the same run, sharing the water at the halfway point. We ran 1:23. The second half seemed much easier after hydrating at the halfway point. Since the water bottle was frozen, it was difficult to carry because it was so cold. It would have been nice to have a belt (or something) to hold the water. I also used to think that Camelbacks and other water carriers were for wussies, but after the one week improvement (and overall better feeling), I am all for water bottle holders on long runs.
Creaky wrote:
100% correct. The only people who might need orthotics are those with SIGNIFICANT leg length discrepancies.
I would submit that those who feel they need orthotics might not be natural distance runners, but sprinters or should specialize in distances under 1500m. Not everyone needs to, or should, run over 3K in competition. You may be genetically predisposed to another event, or should explore another realm of T&F altogether!
I don't think most people race long distances because they're naturally suited for them. Do you? I think they race them because they like them.
I'm definitely not suited for distance. I'm much better at 800 meters than I am at the marathon, no matter how many miles I train. And the reason I don't train for 800 meters is not because there is a lack of competition. There are plenty of open/all-comers meets in my area
I just find it a lot more satisfying to do well in a long-distance race race than in two laps on an outdoor track.
Fortunately I've never needed orthotics, but if they meant the difference between my being able to compete at long distances and not, then I would definitely wear them. And in that case, yes I would "need" them.
The biggest bullshit practices are plyometrics, weight training and yoga/pilates.
Luke Duke wrote:
3. DUCT TAPE
This isn't marketed to runners, but it should. Anytime I get a blister, I pop it, drain it, disinfect, and cover with duct tape. Ultrarunners have used it for years
Sounds interesting, but I have to ask how you get the duct tape off after the run without ripping all the skin off with it?
i say blake blaylock is a beast
is anyone out there...looks like letsrun is done for...be productive...haha see ya'll
bullshit:
nipguards - i've seen some beastly nipple chafing in my day but these don't do anything a bandaid won't do.
runners' mp3 player or walkman - you know those damn things that strap to your bicep? this thing just screams JOGGER.
nike shox, adidas a3 - puh-f***in-lease.
legit:
gatorade - this stuff is awesome, probably yes a bit overpriced but this is one of the first truly legit physiological aids for any endurance athlete.
i don't know if they are bad or good, but i love f***ing powerbars like i cannot even describe. i eat 1 before my morning run, sometimes 1 after...also eat 1 before my afternoon run and usually one after as well. occasionally i will have 1 for a snack. the "cookies and cream" flavor almost makes me orgasm after a hard workout. in fact i like all flavors. yum.
the best part is that they were on sale in my local grocery recently....2 for 96 cents. i bought about 8 dozen.
How exactly do you do this?
[quote]murph butler wrote:
i don't know if they are bad or good, but i love f***ing powerbars like i cannot even describe. {/quote]
I think massage is bullshit. I'll change my mind if someone can show me evidence that it aids in recovery.
As for HRM's, runners who use these are the super analytical/anal types who think their bodies are like a hot rod that can be tuned precisely and monitored with the use of gauges. Sorry, it ain't like this.
On a sidenote, I laugh at those runners who approach their training like a NASA liftoff. They mark everything down in their logbooks which they examine long after the fact. They have their workouts planned until the year 2014. And they obsess over every little niggling pain and what have you. Get a f***ing life.
Runners should train the way Vijay Singh does with golf. Hit balls until the sun goes down. Next day- repeat.
Analysis is no substitute for mileage.
LD
Luke Duke wrote:
I think massage is bullshit. I'll change my mind if someone can show me evidence that it aids in recovery.
No doubt scientists everywhere are lining up, awaiting their chance to change your mind. In the meantime, perhaps it is enough that it simply makes people feel a lot better.
As for HRM's, runners who use these are the super analytical/anal types who think their bodies are like a hot rod that can be tuned precisely and monitored with the use of gauges. Sorry, it ain't like this.
Gauges, gauges. Hmmmm. You mean, like, say... a watch?
On a sidenote, I laugh at those runners who approach their training like a NASA liftoff. They mark everything down in their logbooks which they examine long after the fact. They have their workouts planned until the year 2014. And they obsess over every little niggling pain and what have you. Get a f***ing life.
Why does it bother you so much that others attempt to learn from their past?
Analysis is no substitute for mileage.
Neither is talking like a bumper sticker. I know it's satisfying and all to throw out these silly stereotypes; to try to make some sort of definitive, end-the-debate statement that will be so glib and profound that the other side will be struck dumb by your wit. But all it really does is polarize the debate. No matter how pithy you sound, you're going to have to deal with the fact that some people don't completely share with your approach to training.
Perhaps we should be seeking Flagpoles opinion on the taste of Powerbars then???
??? wrote:
How exactly do you do this?
[quote]murph butler wrote:
i don't know if they are bad or good, but i love f***ing powerbars like i cannot even describe. {/quote]