They should have had a runoff for the nonqualifiers from the semis in case the medals go more than 15 deep after all is said and done.
They should have had a runoff for the nonqualifiers from the semis in case the medals go more than 15 deep after all is said and done.
4:03.09 Wioletta Frankiewicz POL 09.06.77 1 Zürich 06.08.2004
4:03.48 Kelly Holmes GBR 19.04.70 2 Zürich 06.08.2004
then little time later
3:57.90 Kelly Holmes GBR 19.04.70 1 Athínai 28.08.2004
The question that everyone was afraid to ask ...................
ventolin^3 wrote:
4:03.09 Wioletta Frankiewicz POL 09.06.77 1 Zürich 06.08.2004
4:03.48 Kelly Holmes GBR 19.04.70 2 Zürich 06.08.2004
then little time later
3:57.90 Kelly Holmes GBR 19.04.70 1 Athínai 28.08.2004
I look at Holmes, and I think drugs (age 34). But what PED cycle did she get in right before the Games that she wasn't using throughout the season? Also, what was the nature of that 4:03 race? Kinda makes me think of Bolt just recently, how he was having back trouble, went to his doc three weeks before London and of course returns in his usual dominating form...
Holmes was on a downward trajectory then went to live and train with Maria Mutola and bobs yer uncle... Double Olympic champ.
It's depressing. The women's 1500 in particular has become an international farce because of the difficulty in enforcing the rules, and the length of time it takes to bring violators to justice (Will Shannon Rowbury get a medal two or three years from now for her performance in 2012?). The world record set in China is so out of reach that nobody believes that it will ever be broken legally. It mocks the whole event.
In 2011 Uceny had the world's leading time (4:00.06). In 2012 twelve runners broke 4 minutes. Both the world leader (Selsouli, 3:56.13) and the Olympic champion Alptekin have now tested positive. Both are repeat offenders, I believe.
The Ethiopians Aregawi and Genzeba Dibaba had truly outstanding seasons last year, but their accomplishments, within the rules or not, have been overshadowed by the whole doping controversy.
[quote]alanson wrote:
It's depressing. The women's 1500 in particular has become an international farce because of the difficulty in enforcing the rules, and the length of time it takes to bring violators to justice (Will Shannon Rowbury get a medal two or three years from now for her performance in 2012?). The world record set in China is so out of reach that nobody believes that it will ever be broken legally. It mocks the whole event.
In 2011 Uceny had the world's leading time (4:00.06). In 2012 twelve runners broke 4 minutes. Both the world leader (Selsouli, 3:56.13) and the Olympic champion Alptekin have now tested positive. Both are repeat offenders, I believe.
Haha, you think those Epopians are clean?
Rowbury has had her moments too.
Can't disagree.
trollism wrote:
Haha, you think those Epopians are clean?
Rowbury has had her moments too.
finfer wrote:But what PED cycle did she get in right before the Games that she wasn't using throughout the season? Also, what was the nature of that 4:03 race?
poor pacing but worth no more than coupla secs faster at even pace ( it wasn't a great race for zurich - bernie beat hicham in 3'27 in same meet )
she got oukicked solidly
no way did she look a medal contender
she woudn't have been doping on the circuit - pointless
an autologous blood transfusion before games woud fit the bill perfectly
IAAF Confirms reports:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/mar/22/olympic-champion-cakir-alptekin-drugs
Rowbury knew what was going on. We all knew. The sport is very dirty. These few athletes who test positive are only the tip of the iceberg.
http://www.flotrack.org/video/652960-Shannon-Rowbury-says-no-room-for-cheats
check out the video of the race: right after the race, the two Turks, who finished 1-2, have interesting expressions. The winner, in particular, does not show elation but guilt-ridden consciousness of what she did to get there.
Marge: Groundskeeper Willy saved you, Homer.
Homer: But listen to the music! He's evil!
"It's a biological passport case. It's not finalised yet but we know it's a positive case," a spokesman said. "Immediately after the London Olympic Games we discovered abnormalities. We have seen big abnormalities and it is not the only case from Turkey. More are coming."
...a spokesman said. "Immediately after the London Olympic Games we discovered abnormalities. We have seen big abnormalities and it is not the only case from Turkey. More are coming."[/quote]
The spokesman? (a man not a woman?) will not be happy until the Olympics are destroyed. Track and field will continue to lose interest as a sport.
Nutella1 wrote:
I am surprised it's a real Turkish this time and not a naturalized Ethiopian.
None of the ethiopians running for turkey ever tested positive,! Can u name them ... U have no clue. The most prominent turk that got nabbed was ayhan ...
mako wrote:
Ben L. Wrong wrote:7th, 8th and 9th are suspicious to me.
Just because they are all from eastern Europe, you idiot? I can't speak for these Russian and Belorussian women because I know nothing about their trainig but Klocová is clean, I know the enviroment where she trains. And I can assure you that (former) Czechoslovakia is culturally a very different country than Russia or Belorussia and the training system is completely different. (for me, the American runners are suspicious)
So Russians are dirty and Americans are dirty, but Czechs are clean? I am guessing no Czech has ever tested positive in any sport?
Eb55 wrote:
None of the ethiopians running for turkey ever tested positive,! Can u name them ... U have no clue. The most prominent turk that got nabbed was ayhan ...
Sorry this came over the wrong way. What I meant to say is most Turkish successful athletes are of African heritage.
And that I don't really have a lot of respect for runners who switch their nationality so they can earn more money.
Winning for Losing wrote:
The spokesman? (a man not a woman?) will not be happy until the Olympics are destroyed. Track and field will continue to lose interest as a sport.
On the contrary - this is all extremely encouraging. Maybe the biological passports will actually make a real difference.
This isn't a surprise at all. Not sure if that is a good thing or not.
Nutella1 wrote:And that I don't really have a lot of respect for runners who switch their nationality so they can earn more money.
eh ???
you want to deny someone a chance to make a better living ???
idiot