Cabral pretty good indeed.
3:56 is 58.7sec laps.
Commentator said opening 800 1:59.
They also said it was a 55sec final lap for Bumbi, so Cabral prob 55.5sec.
If last lap is true then with a more even pace these guys could go 3:53/54 ?
Not sure those splits and the last lap are correct though.
Nice to see Solinsky back on the track and knocking out a few sub 60s. His hamstring must be in decent shape.
worker wrote:
He was the pace maker, dropped out @ 800 as planned
He was NOT pacemaker! He just didn't have it! He is washed up!
Carless Joe, is insane
However I am surpised that the pace asked for was 1:59.xx for 800 or 880
Creese looked very good again after a 4:06 , the 1:49 sharpened him up, obviously
They have the goods with even Loxsom running the 400 in a DMR, Kidder, Watkins OR West and Creese?
Nice results from the morning session (well, except for Jock):
Section 7
1 Noelle, Chad Oregon 3:59.57
2 Miner, Matt Oregon 4:01.38
3 Guyota, Boru Oregon 4:02.05
4 Daniels, Matt Adams State 4:02.91
5 Munsch, Josh Kansas 4:03.18
....Charles Jock 4:14
No Mac Fleet.
Also, AJ Acosta was 8:28 and buried in the 3000. It's been rough going last year or so.
PSU Record for Creese by a full second.
previos record was 3:58.48 by Ryan Foster (2011)
Saw the Mac Fleet DNS tonight
Hope he is well, he was wunderkind talent.3:57/1:47 as a true frosh, with fast 4 x 4 speed as well as a HS'er
It is hard to ignore what PSU has done, whether folks like the new regime or not, or question the timing of some great performances
But, Ryan Brennan ran 1:50.23
West ran 1:49.x
Loxsom, we know
Watkins, 2:22.x 100 and 1:49.x scratch
and Creese now 3:57.xx and Kidder under 4 flat and 1:48.17
If you just add their marks and are conservative
Watkins can surely go 2:55, so can Kidder, any one of their 800 guys, just give them 1:49.00 and a 3:57.0 anchor, plus Loxson on 8 or 4 running 46.5 on 400, 9:28.x?
Sounds sleazy to accept a school record set on an illegal track.
ol joe wrote:
PSU Record for Creese by a full second.
Really? For the mile? on a flat no give back flat 307 track compared to , Armory, PSU or Arkansas?
Either you have been to none of those or had someone run there.
I would say this without hesitation, for a mile? Those are faster venues at a mile any day.
Watch how fast guys run at Millrose next week.At the Armory.
I predict it will be dominated. By guys who aren't milers and no one in the stacked race will be among the world's top 40 1500/milers at years end.
Trialswatcher wrote:
Really? For the mile? on a flat no give back flat 307 track compared to , Armory, PSU or Arkansas?
Either you have been to none of those or had someone run there.
I would say this without hesitation, for a mile? Those are faster venues at a mile any day.
Watch how fast guys run at Millrose next week.At the Armory.
QFE
Gnostic wrote:
Nice results from the morning session (well, except for Jock):
Section 7
1 Noelle, Chad Oregon 3:59.57
2 Miner, Matt Oregon 4:01.38
3 Guyota, Boru Oregon 4:02.05
4 Daniels, Matt Adams State 4:02.91
5 Munsch, Josh Kansas 4:03.18
....Charles Jock 4:14
No Mac Fleet.
Also, AJ Acosta was 8:28 and buried in the 3000. It's been rough going last year or so.
First sub 4 for Noelle, good to see him running well.
Oversized tracks should not count for records.
Running Fast wrote:
A PSU record for Creese? Anyone know
expert. wrote:
Oversized tracks should not count for records.
Running Fast wrote:A PSU record for Creese? Anyone know
It still counts for trying to determine the quality of the racing. It is not unusual for the indoor tracks not to have the right cones, curb etc., so unless you really know the details, it is a point without a point. For example, at the indoor Hept record (Eaton's first?)they did not the appropriate cones etc. and so that mark should not count as a WR. Did anyone protest?
Expert, you are correct obviously they need to be noted
However, you like me and many others have seen all kinds of conversion factors given different venue types.
The 200 banked tracks of today and we know which ones by now, are no slower than this one. I would dare say all the way to two miles and some folks will gringe at that.
But if anyone thinks at a mile that UW is faster than the BU track, just as an example? They just do not watch enough Track and Field or are stubborn.
When folks will bring up ND and the obvious DMR marks every year? That is just as much a function of comp and everyone loading up at the last chance as anything else.
Oregon ran 9:35 at the Armory with a huge 3+ second fall by Brett Johnson and with a Fleet 4:05 anchor, give Johnson his sure 2:53.5 and Mac Fleet runs sub 4 or 4 flat 1600 (or now anyone of 2-3 other guys?) and they run 9:27.x at the Armory first week in Feb. just as an example.
These 200M banked tracks are absurdly fast.
No completely eye opening marks in open races are run at UW or ND, nothing that you could not see coming anyway.
No one will run 9:27 this year at ND, I do not think.
Prancer wrote:
San Antonio wrote:It will be an interesting event to watch. I predict top 10 will run sub 4
I predict top 6 will break 4min and viren will destroy Pre in munich
What?!? Are you nuts? Have you even seen this Pre kid run? This kid is a BEAST. He's gonna eat Viren alive.
Looks like Bumby won with a lean.
ur.n.idiot wrote:
Sounds sleazy to accept a school record set on an illegal track.
ol joe wrote:PSU Record for Creese by a full second.
You mean the "illegal" track that Rupp struggled to run 3:57 on the week before popping 3:50 on Boston's "legal" track? Yeah, that one. I'm sure anyone running decent at Dempsey has trouble sleeping at night, being like a "criminal" running on "illegal" tracks and all.....
Good for Bumby for always pushing for the win like a real competitor. I predict he'll run 7:39 at Millrose for 3000. He's due a PR.
Stacked?
My girlfriend's mother is stacked. My teacher's 19 year old daughter is stacked!
The waitress at my local coffee shop is stacked!