Fluffy wrote:
Nope wrote:In my head, I read it as German, but since it's a Spanish name, it's pronounced more like Herman.
Its pronounced German, he even says it that way.
No it's pronounced Herma'n.
Typical Mexican who wants to distance himself from his heritage.... can you say fooking loser !
"Typical Mexican who wants to distance himself from his heritage.... can you say fooking loser !"
Isn't German's family from El Savador? Last I looked that was not part of Mexico.
Also, last I heard people can pronounce their name any way they wish. If he really wanted to distance himself from his heritage he change his last name to jones, or smith, or dork, and maybe his first name to fluffy.
fluffydork wrote:
"Typical Mexican who wants to distance himself from his heritage.... can you say fooking loser !"
Isn't German's family from El Savador? Last I looked that was not part of Mexico.
Also, last I heard people can pronounce their name any way they wish. If he really wanted to distance himself from his heritage he change his last name to jones, or smith, or dork, and maybe his first name to fluffy.
Nope dope he's 100% Mex
German needs to run a 3:33 to auto qualify for the US Trials. He can run the trials with anything under 3:39, but he won't make the cut due to too many others that are under 3:39, but faster than German. The Field will be closed before they get to his time.
jjjjjjjj wrote:
People like MichaelMatthews were hammering him and Smith constantly, saying he'd never run well until he was gone from OSU, but he got it together.
I am one of the kids harshest critics but also one of his biggest fans. I still think that running for that know-nothing at OSU was the worst career decision he could have made. He could have trained under his manager at Applebees and ended up running 3:55 his freshman year. He was still running on fumes from his HS summer.
Don't get me wrong, OSU has a great squad, but it has nothing to do with coaching and everything to do with recruiting, which probably had a lot to do with having the golden boy on the team.
That being said, I would love to see him set the world on fire and become the next great American miler/5k runner, but it's not going to happen in Stillwater.
Hopefully he goes back to his HS coach
Western Roller wrote:
German needs to run a 3:33 to auto qualify for the US Trials. He can run the trials with anything under 3:39...
I don't know why you said 3:39 when this entire thread is about Fernandez running 3:37, but Fernandez is in the trials as his time is the 27th best and they are taking 30. Full list below:
Name Affiliation Mark Status Declaration
1 Lopez Lomong Nike 03:33.6 qualified
2 Leonel Manzano Nike 03:33.7 qualified declared
3 Russell Brown Nike / Oregon TC Elite 03:34.1 qualified
4 Matthew Centrowitz Nike 03:34.5 qualified
5 Robby Andrews adidas 03:34.8 qualified declared
6 Jeff See Saucony 03:35.2 qualified declared
7 David Torrence Nike 03:35.4 qualified declared
8 Kyle Merber Columbia University 03:35.6 qualified declared
9 Andrew Wheating Nike / Oregon TC Elite 03:35.9 qualified
10 Nicholas Symmonds Nike / Oregon TC Elite 03:36.0 qualified
11 Garrett Heath Saucony 03:36.2 qualified declared
12 Jack Bolas New Balance 03:36.3 qualified declared
13 William Leer Nike 03:36.3 qualified declared
14 Craig Miller New Balance 03:36.4 qualified
15 AJ Acosta University of Oregon 03:36.4
16 Jordan McNamara Nike / Oregon TC Elite 03:36.5 qualified declared
17 Kyle Miller Nike 03:36.8 qualified declared
18 Liam Boylan-Pett New Jersey New York Track Club 03:37.0 qualified
19 Andrew Bumbalough Nike 03:37.2 qualified
20 Riley Masters University of Oklahoma 03:37.2 qualified declared
21 Alan Webb Nike 03:37.3 qualified declared
22 Miles Batty Brigham Young University 03:37.5 qualified
23 Daniel Huling Reebok 03:37.5 qualified
24 Matthew Maldonado California State University, Long Beach 03:37.7 qualified declared
25 Dorian Ulrey Nike 03:37.7 qualified
26 German Fernandez 03:37.8 updated pending
27 Erik Van Ingen State University of New York at Binghamton 03:38.1 qualified
28 Andrew Bayer Indiana University 03:38.1 updated
29 Brian Gagnon New Jersey New York Track Club 03:38.4 qualified
30 John Mickowski 03:38.4 qualified declared
31 Rob Finnerty University of Wisconsin-Madison 03:38.6 updated pending
32 Stephen Pifer Nike / Oregon TC Elite 03:38.6 qualified declared
33 Evan Jager Nike / Oregon TC Elite 03:38.8 qualified
34 Cory Leslie The Ohio State University 03:39.0 qualified
35 Duncan Phillips University of Arkansas, Fayetteville 03:39.1 provisional pending
36 Daniel Clark 03:39.1 provisional pending
37 Michael Hammond Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University 03:39.2 provisional pending
38 Luke Rucks Wisconsin Runner Racing Team 03:39.3 provisional
39 John Jefferson Brooks 03:39.4 provisional
40 Joseph Stilin Princeton University 03:39.4 provisional pending
41 Ryan Hill North Carolina State University 03:39.6 provisional
42 Trevor Van Ackeren Princeton University 03:39.9 provisional
43 Christian Gonzalez New Jersey New York Track Club 03:40.0 provisional
44 Trevor Dunbar University of Oregon 03:40.1 provisional pending
45 Isaac Presson University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 03:40.2 provisional
46 Reed Connor 03:40.5 provisional
47 Michael Banks 03:40.5 provisional pending
48 Matthew Elliott Brooks 03:40.5 provisional
49 Tony Jordanek 03:41.1 --
50 Rob Myers Saucony 03:42.0 provisional pending
51 John Minen Kent State University 03:42.0 provisional
52 Tyler Mulder Nike / Oregon TC Elite 03:42.5 provisional
53 Owen Dawson The Pennsylvania State University 03:42.5 provisional pending
54 Michael Coe Bay Area Track Club (BATC) 03:42.7 provisional pending
55 Chris Mitchell-Horton 03:44.0 not qualified
56 George Alex University of Oklahoma 03:58.8 not qualified --
By the way, athletes need to declare no later then 2 days before their event.
Anyone saying negative things in this thread has either very little understanding of running or very little knowledge of German Fernandez. I've actually never been a huge Fernandez fan, but to ignore this is a good sign is idiotic.
As a high schooler, he was injured junior year, came back to have one of the greatest high school seasons ever. 2-mile record, sick state meet double, etc.
Follows that up with a great, but injury prone, freshman year. NCAA champ, junior 5k record, junior world record I believe in the indoor mile. Following his freshman year up till now he has repeatedly been injured.
SIX WEEKS before NCAA's he was not running. In that time he went from an early May 3:43, to a 3:40 at NCAA's, to a 3:37 10 days later. One of america's greatest distance prodigy's is healthy and improving quickly. Please argue this logic.
carrythezero wrote:
Anyone saying negative things in this thread has either very little understanding of running or very little knowledge of German Fernandez. I've actually never been a huge Fernandez fan, but to ignore this is a good sign is idiotic.
As a high schooler, he was injured junior year, came back to have one of the greatest high school seasons ever. 2-mile record, sick state meet double, etc.
Follows that up with a great, but injury prone, freshman year. NCAA champ, junior 5k record, junior world record I believe in the indoor mile. Following his freshman year up till now he has repeatedly been injured.
SIX WEEKS before NCAA's he was not running. In that time he went from an early May 3:43, to a 3:40 at NCAA's, to a 3:37 10 days later. One of america's greatest distance prodigy's is healthy and improving quickly. Please argue this logic.
OK, I'll tell you why I can't stand German and wish him no success.
First of all I am a loser. I was born a loser and will always be a loser. I have no talent and what little abilities that I do have I have never really used them.
Now Fernandez is super talented, has shown toughness in working through a seemingly unending series of setbacks, and is now beginning to show glimpses of what he can do.
I HATE THAT!
When this kid is busting 3:28 in a couple of years, the haters on this thread are gonna look silly.
Western Roller wrote:
German needs to run a 3:33 to auto qualify for the US Trials.
You REALLY have no idea how this works do you?
Fluffy wrote:
Nope wrote:In my head, I read it as German, but since it's a Spanish name, it's pronounced more like Herman.
Its pronounced German, he even says it that way.
It's supposed to be pronounced Hermahn, but he said he pronounces it "German," like the country, because too many ppl f/ck it up. It was in a yt video interview of him or whatever.
If Rupp, who struggled to break 4:00 throughout college, can run 3:34, I'm sure Fernandez who soloed a 3:55i at 18 years old can run that time soon.
THTW wrote:
Fluffy wrote:Its pronounced German, he even says it that way.
It's supposed to be pronounced Hermahn, but he said he pronounces it "German," like the country, because too many ppl f/ck it up. It was in a yt video interview of him or whatever.
Its supposed to be pronounced the way he pronounces it, which is German. I really don't know how people can debate this. If he pronounces it German than its not Hermahn, herman, or anything else.
I swear - it's a sign that I've been hanging out on this site too much that my first reaction to this post was to burst out laughing. Excellent trolling.
Speedy McSeedy wrote:
Footspeed is wildly over-rated. What counts is leg speed velocity.
MORON!
THTW wrote:
It's supposed to be pronounced Hermahn, but he said he pronounces it "German," like the country, because too many ppl f/ck it up. It was in a yt video interview of him or whatever.
Actually the Spanish pronunciation would be more like "Hair-mahn". But since he says it is really "German" so be it.
TJ wrote:
He needs to switch to the 5/10 permanently. His 13:25 is a better performance than his 3:37 high, and it seems like he has a pretty big engine but not much more footspeed than he had as a frosh, and even on the American scene that won't do much these days. But a 13:0X 5000m will, and that's what he should be looking at trying to hit now.
This is a ridiculous statement. His freshman year he lost only two track races, both 5k's. He was never once challenged in the 1500/mile. He ran a world jr record in the mile and essentially set/tied a then collegiate record. That indoor race was more impressive than his 13:25, and if he had got into some real 1500 races outdoors he would have probably run 3:34. People seem to only look at the times from 3 years ago as if the circumstances are irrelevant. Fact is he was challenged big time in both his 5k's which is why he ran such great times, and fact is he ran 355.02 solo in the mile indoors. Obviously no one can prove what he would have run in 2009, but given his solo 355.02 indoors and never losing to anyone in the 1500/mile that year being NCAA champion in the 1500, you can bet 3:39.00 was not what he was capable of. If he'd never run in an elite 5k, he probably would have finished with a 13:40 if he ran that solo.
Mrr82 wrote:
...His freshman year he lost only two track races, both 5k's. He was never once challenged in the 1500/mile. He ran a world jr record in the mile and essentially set/tied a then collegiate record. That indoor race was more impressive than his 13:25, and if he had got into some real 1500 races outdoors he would have probably run 3:34...
German does not have the speed required to be a top miler. Never had it. Never will. He would ALWAYS get blown out of the water on the kick by a Centro, Andrews, Wheating, Manzano (on a good Leo day), Lagat...
If you are unable to see that then you do not understand the sport.
Western Roller -
German needs to run a 3:33 to auto qualify for the US Trials. He can run the trials with anything under 3:39, but he won't make the cut due to too many others that are under 3:39, but faster than German. The Field will be closed before they get to his time.
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Wait asecond here! Is this BS or is there actually some truth to this????
It says on the website that they are going to do 3 heats of or totalling 30 runners? What does this actually mean? What if in theory there had been 400 guys that ran under 3:39 before the deadline? They would all have the right to work their way through the various heats in order to arrive at that final field of runners. The more that qualify, the more heats, they (the organizers) will need to run right? Depending on the physical numbers?
This seems pretty obvious but could get tricky with too many bodies on the track and if you have to run an extra round or two to get into the final field, your gunna get ground down a bit and start to burn out (maybe?) Please shed some light.........
3:39 is not an auto-qualifier, in other words it does not guarantee you a spot, it only makes you eligible. They will take the top 30 fastest qualifiers.