Did Kip Keino Really Run The 10k and 5k Before Crushing Jim Ryun in 1,500 at 1968 Olympics?

There was no such thing as "blood doping" in 1972. Get over it. (quote)

Are you serious?

Lassie Viren was the most notorious blood doper in athletic history and you will find he won the 5000 and 10,000 in 72.

And to CAQLa - yes , that even added to the heartbreak. Because some idiot working out the Olympic heats, didn’t believe anyone could run a 3.51 mile, he assumed it must mean a 3.51 1500 and put Ryun in the wrong heat!

Trollist wrote:

Old Miler wrote:

In Munich, Ryun was tripped by a runner from Ghana. In '72 he won the trial in 3:41 & change with a 51 point final 400. Maybe Pekka V. would have won anyway? Was he a blood doper? Maybe Ryun would have won. We'll never know.

I was nuts for Jim Ryun, at 15 in '72 he was my idol, along with Marty Liquori. It was my entry into the sport.

Not as happy with Jim the congressman!

There was no such thing as "blood doping" in 1972. Get over it.

Sure there was. And regular doping, too. Nearly a hundred years ago, TdF some cyclists would eat bull testicles in an attempt to get a boost from the testosterone. Thomas Hicks "won" the 1904 Olympic Marathon after receiving assistance in the form multiple doses of strychnine and brandy.

Isabelle wrote:

Gee whiz Rojo.

I just looked at the pictures of Keino’s visit to Cornell. Why didn’t you ask him about the ’68 Games? No big deal, I am not trying to flame you. Also, the tongue in cheek remark about Keino NOT running professionally. He DID. in the early 1970s (1973 after the Munich Games) there was the International Track Association (ITA) and Kip was a part of it along with Jim Ryun, George Young, Dave Wottle just to name some runners involved. It was founded by a guy named Mike O’Hara if I remember correctly. Time Magazine ran a story on them and Marty Liqouri was one of their announcers.

I have photos from one of their events and attended the first one. Get in touch with me if you want to see a photo.

I saw the ITA compete at Mt. Hood Comm. College in Portland around 1974 or 75. Saw Ryun, Keino, Rod Milburn, Brian Oldfield. The meet organizers set up a series of lights around the track on the infield. As the race progressed, the lights would flash in progression at the (then) world record pace so it gave the impression that the runners were chasing the world record. It was stupid because uninformed spectators were left dissapointed, expecting a wr.

aloha warrior wrote

"the lights would flash in progression at the (then) world record pace so it gave the impression that the runners were chasing the world record. It was stupid because uninformed spectators were left dissapointed, expecting a wr.”

I saw Ryun chase the lights at the meet I was at. It seemed too “gimicky”. Former Oregon State High Jumper John Radetich jumped very well. it might have been his 7’4 3/4’’ jump. He was very impressive that night. I wish I could remember the details of the night. Long ago and far away.

rojo wrote:

I knew he had already won silver in the 5000 but had no idea he dropped out of the 10k with gallstones.

That's what this article says and I'm assuming it's accurate.

Can anyone confirm?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/mar/30/olympics-2012-athletics

Redux:

Nice chapter on Keino:

http://books.google.com/books?id=O6I-WcoG5egC&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42&dq=kip+keino+running+with+the+legends&source=bl&ots=O-oFqc1hMD&sig=gdewp-uVNwqs9iK28w2UVfuxpNg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=MgZ6T7W4L6Xf0QGMxvHEDQ&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=kip%20keino%20running%20with%20the%20legends&f=false

http://www.juanjosemartinez.com.mx/Keino.html

Marty Liquori was running on a broken foot? Did he break it somehow in the semi-final?