they are probably two of the best atheltes in the NCAA this year.
Unless someone else OBLITERATES a NCAA record this year, that would be Chelanga.
they are probably two of the best atheltes in the NCAA this year.
Unless someone else OBLITERATES a NCAA record this year, that would be Chelanga.
Seriously how can anyone get that worked up over Chelenga
His is 25 and 3 months old, and will be 26 and same as a senior.
He is older than Methusela
Umm..maybe because he's better than any American except one at 10K. Acknowledge greatness. Don't hate.
rojo wrote:
I disagree 100% with your analysis. Was Andrews as sharp as he was on Wednesday? Probably not (But possibly - Andrews closed in 26.60 on Wed and 26.61 today).
But it wouldn't have mattered if Andrews was just as sharp as he was on Wednesday. As I said in another post. On Wednesday, after seeing Andrews splits I thought to myself, "How can he get beat. He can close in 26.60 in a 145 mid race?" Well he gets beat by a guy like Wheating who can close in a 26.2 in a 1:45 mid race.
Please don't tell me that Andrews time on Wed. was faster than Wheating's was today. Yes it was but only marginally.
Wheating's close today was .40 faster and he had no one to chase. Wheating won by almost a second. Wheating closed in 26.20 and won by a ton. After watching the final, I know think the opposite. How could anyone have beaten Wheating? No one collegiately could. He wins that thing 10 times out of 10.
Now a top notch pro like Symmonds who closed in 25 high at Pre last year might be able to do it. See Symmonds splits form last year here. 2
http://www.flashresults.com/2009_Meets/outdoor/Pre/Men800.pdfHe ran a 25.77 in a 1:45 high race to win Pre.
This has to be about the finniest post I've ever seen on letsrun, particularly after your own people (at the meet, like I am) said:
Andrews told us afterwards that he just didn't have it (which is what it looked like, as he would have been crazy to stay in last place with 200m to go while Wheating was 1 second ahead of him).
And that's basically what I'm saying. Andrews on Wednesday ran 26.6 after a 51.3 first 400. On Friday, Andrews was almost TWO FULL SECONDS slower in the first 400 than his own race on Wednesday. EVERY split was slower than what he ran on Wednesday.
And to restate what should be obvious, Andrews ran on Wednesday 0.15 FASTER than wheating ran to win the final.
Obviously, you weren't a math major.
He's better than Rupp? Are you seriously going there? Adam Eaton is the best athlete in the NCAA so you are all wrong anyway.
thegame wrote:
Umm..maybe because he's better than any American except one at 10K. Acknowledge greatness. Don't hate.
J.R. wrote:
rojo wrote:Please don't tell me that Andrews time on Wed. was faster than Wheating's was today. Yes it was but only marginally.
Well you already know it was 3.26 seconds faster, a huge PR for Andrews in 1:45.54, compared to a very relaxed 1:48.80 for Wheating. A 3:45 (4:03 mile) in between does not remotely compare to a 1:45 huge PR.
Andrews said on the interview that his legs were still heavy from the semis. Wheating's legs were hardly heavy from a 1:49 and a 4:03 mile. That he ran the semis in rain only served to keep him cooled down and recover more quickly. There was nothing particularly difficult about running 1:49 in the rain. Had he run 1:45 then that would have been different. As someone mentioned, there is no way that 3 guys who ran 1:46 should have been left out of the final and an almost 1:49 guy put into it. Nike might as well have kept him out of the semis altogether.
There is no denying that the difference in qualifying times made a big difference in the final.
Wow, just wow! I hate to seem negative, but this ignorance is almost frightening. I'm just going to have to assume you have never run anywhere near this level.
You do realize that it turned into a sh#t storm between the first semifinal and the 3rd semifinal right? It got super windy and Wheating is 6'5". He simply cannot avoid wind.
Regarding that 1500 semi, they hit a :55 quarter in the middle, not exactly jogging when you've already run a solid 800 the day before and are hoping to save some for 2 more races.
I'm also still in disbelief that such extreme ignorance is even possible. J.R. is either a persistent troll or the single most frightening case of ignorance I have ever seen applied to track and field.
who
the
f***
is
Adam Eaton?
"And to restate what should be obvious, Andrews ran on Wednesday 0.15 FASTER than wheating ran to win the final."
I read somewhere that the NCAA was going to reverse the results and give the win to Andrews. Then they realized that Wheating ran faster a few years ago, so they gave it back.
Then they looked at the 1500 final and realized that AJ gave it to Wheating.
So, now, in a unprecedented move, AJ Acosta, who was not even in the race, is the 800 winner. Mac Fleet is attempting to be named the 1500 victor since he beat Acosta every time indoor and ran faster than the final recently.
German Fernandez is considering his options.
A protest has also been lodged by Nick Symmonds in the 800 since he ran faster on the same weekend. The NCAA is meeting right now to consider.
Meanwhile, Kenenisa Bekele is attempting to be named the victor of every 5000 and 10000 meter race ever run. He may soon have close to 100 Olympic medals.
Adam Eaton is a washed-up MLB pitcher who spent time with the Padres, Phillies and Rangers. Basically out of baseball at age 32...
Now ASHTON Eaton is indeed one hell of an athlete.
hahaha that was perfect
Ryan Foreman wrote:
Why do people keep saying Andrews ran a dumb race? He just didn't have it today. When a football kicker comes up short on a 54 yard field goal do you say, "that was stupid of him, he should have put it inside the goal posts. What was he thinking?"?
stupid post- he put himself out of position- if he was sitting in no mands land against men. No mans land is nowhere to be- if you look at his indoors race he was maybe 10 yards back with 150 to go- smaller scale made the kick look bigger- (one of the reasons my wife is so tiny)- larger scale- way farther back- and in traffic- no way he wins. I've heard "it always opens up"- not true for Robbie today. In the end- he's an amazing kid- amazing talent- etc- but I would not say he had a bad day- it was a fault in tactics- if he continues to belive if 'it just wanst my day' he'll make the same mistakes and continue to lose- period.
no friggin way wrote:
Regarding that 1500 semi, they hit a :55 quarter in the middle
Oh well I did not realize that a 55 400 was harder than a 1:45.54 for 800.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Great post. If Andrews looks at his races this way, he will show very little improvement in the future. It will be same old, same old. If he kicks and wins, it was his day. If he kicks and loses, it just wasn't his day. I wish the kid the best, but he has some major maturation to go through if he wants to be at a Symmonds/Wheating level in three years.
because wheating and symmonds never let their races be determined by a kick at the end...