WHAT SHOCKED YOU MOST? 12:56 or 26:59

chillywilly wrote:

Nobody should have guessed Solinksy would set the AR in his season/10k debut, especially with the abysmal pacers.

What was wrong with the pacers? It seemed they were on AR pace pretty much the entire time?

www.666energy.com wrote:

It does not matter which performance is better. I am just really happy that we have some of the world's best distance runners, and that our fastest guys are catching up with our African brothers.

Exactly Jason. Neither was a shock to me, more of a relief.

exactly...Go hard!

12:45 & 26:30 wrote:

A few American need to run sub 12:45 and 26:30 before they can be considered on a par with the rest of world. It doesn't matter whether they are "classified" as White, Black, Asian, Hispanic or as an Immigrant. There's a long way to go.

Besides Bekele's 26:25 at Pre in 2008, there hasn't been a single performance in the world under 26:46 since 2006.

Last year the top 2 performances in the 5000 were 12:52 and 12:55, both in the Zurich race where Ritz ran 12:56.

No one has run under 12:48 since 2005.

It's easy to look at the world records and say how far behind the American records are. But if you're looking at what's being done in the current environment, saying you need to run 12:45 and 26:30 to be "on a par with the rest of the world" is just a silly statement.

ditto, duckshirt.

Solinsky. I still have a hard time beieving it.

can't be serious...run and keep running - hard! Alot different than cats talking about quitting because they were not satisfied with they're results. The most bogus excuse was when "some" cat said he was going to dental school instead of running! I'm sure that if you place in the top 5% of any race, any place, you are not trying to make ends meet.

asdgfh wrote: Besides Bekele's 26:25 at Pre in 2008, there hasn't been a single performance in the world under 26:46 since 2006.

Last year the top 2 performances in the 5000 were 12:52 and 12:55, both in the Zurich race where Ritz ran 12:56.

No one has run under 12:48 since 2005.

It's easy to look at the world records and say how far behind the American records are. But if you're looking at what's being done in the current environment, saying you need to run 12:45 and 26:30 to be "on a par with the rest of the world" is just a silly statement.

So in your version of the running world the WRs are slower. If a time hasn't be approached for several years you simply want to ignore the WR and reset it to a slower time. The WR is still the WR. The fastest times run are the fastest times run.

slower WR? wrote:

asdgfh wrote: Besides Bekele's 26:25 at Pre in 2008, there hasn't been a single performance in the world under 26:46 since 2006.

Last year the top 2 performances in the 5000 were 12:52 and 12:55, both in the Zurich race where Ritz ran 12:56.

No one has run under 12:48 since 2005.

It's easy to look at the world records and say how far behind the American records are. But if you're looking at what's being done in the current environment, saying you need to run 12:45 and 26:30 to be "on a par with the rest of the world" is just a silly statement.

So in your version of the running world the WRs are slower. If a time hasn't be approached for several years you simply want to ignore the WR and reset it to a slower time. The WR is still the WR. The fastest times run are the fastest times run.

The idea I was challenging was that you need to run 12:45 and 26:36 to be "on par with the rest of the world". Don't you think there's a difference between that and challenging world records? Heck, someone that runs 12:45 isn't going to be challenging a world record without a lot of improvement.

Good point. It's easy to get excited about someone from your country reaching a milestone, sub 27 in this case, the best runners should shot for something better, faster.

I'd love to see Chris S. run sub 26:45, or any U.S. male runner. Also, a U.S. woman run sub 30. Even if they wouldn't be breaking the WR they would be the one everyone else was chasing and trying to beat.

What shocked me was that anybody gave a shit. It's distance running, WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

26:59

Wish I'd seen that race