how to increase mileage

what kidn of pace should it be done at, how about any days off, or does lydiard not believe in those, please if you can break this plan down to me as much as possible as i am trying to increase mileage very rapidly as well

dear john, i am very very interested in this method, i need to get in sick shape for this upcoming xc season i have about 4 and a half months, i want to do the lydiard method. please email me all the info on this kind of training that you can give me, exzybits@comcast.net

how did your legs feel, did they feel dead? i need to know best way to get into killer aerobic shape, without killing the legs, please email me back

One Lydiard book I have that echoes a lot of what John is saying is "Running with Lydiard". I also have "Running to the Top" but "Running with Lydiard" is better organized and outlines training programs from the 400 to the marathon.

Definitely worth checking out. John is doing a great job giving you all of the key details to Lydiard's training philosophy.

has anyone tried this program with sucessful resuts since this thread least year? If so could you post how you progressed throughout the training? This would be a really great if anyone could help.

I would also be interested in learning about people's experiences in trying to increase their mileage like this.

Paul

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another miler wrote:

malmo wrote:

Even more typical:

"I heard that the best way to increase mileage is the Fibonacci method: 0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144"

"If you don't do it that way you'll catch a cramp and drown, or you'll poke an eye out, or ....."

Wow! With that structure, you can go from 144 to 233 in one week! Then 377! Then 510 miles in a single freaking week! Imagine what will happen to American distance running once everyone uses this plan!

I'm sorry it just bothered me that no one has pointed this out yet, but 510 is not a fibonacci number.

midwest runner wrote:

can someone post some samples of how the kenyans train. thanks

Kenyans train fast and hard

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that was a great bump. thank you.

I am thinking about trying Lydiard training from June-November.

10% is too much too fast? Just run more each week man, it's that simple

BUMP. Im curious, has anyone on here done this themselves? If you have tried this, do you have any reccomendations or alterations to such a quick increase in mileage ?

has anyone increased their mileage like this before? got an input on whether its a good idea?

How does the Lydiard method John has so thoroughly described and clarified compare to what modern coaches such as Canova recommend? Are the Kenyans and other modern elites doing similar phases? Are they lowering mileage in the later phases as drastically as Lydiard recommended?

please email me the training

Don't be a b**** baby and just do it.

tinman wrote:

Actually, you can jump mileage very quickly if you have a strong background in running. To go from 40 to 80 in a hurry, you have to slow down your pace by about 40-60 seconds per mile. Once you hit your mileage (which you can get in 3-4 weeks, I think), you can gradaully pick up the pace. So, by the end of the second month you should be running around 80 per week at a pace similar to what you are doing now at 40 per week.

Yes it's true you can do anything you want. But will you benefit from it? How much will you benefit from it? Would you do better by having a more sensible plan?

To go from 40 to 80 in one month is suicide even if you are 12 years old. (You are not seriously the Tinman are you?)

Scrote wrote:

Take a month off after your cross country season and then run a 200 mile week the first week back.

Yes the best plan. 10/10