NCAA Men's 1500m - Who wins?

stephen pifer has been mentioned about 10 times now. when did he beat manzano?

who ever makes the finals has a shot at winning: manzano, lancashire, pablo, pifer, brown etc etc. they all have a shot at winning. by the way manzano has beaten pifer most times they have run , (indoor ncaa mile in '06 for sure) , not the point though. each race is different . plus i just checked trackshark and Pifer has a NCAA top 10 time in the 5,000m (13:43)

As a casual, relatively uninterested reader of this thread, I have to state that I am struck by the complete idiocy of "Hey's" statements. You surely are one dumb #$%&

youre right- everyone who makes the final really does have an honest chance of winning. i can't think of a year we're someone not expected to finish in the top 3 or 5 actually finished in the top 3 or 5. how about in 2005 when the top 4 runners finished ni 3:37-3:38? i believe there was some guy from American College who finished in that time band. so there's always the possibility of someone having a coming out party and spooging all over the rest of the field. i mean, these guys are still relatively young, so their rate of improvement is probably less predictable than say, professional athletes who've been running professionally for 5+ years. also it's harder to improve when you're that fast.

do you think pifer will run the 5000m? i can deffinately see Vaughn running the 5000m(as opposed to the 10,000m, although I wouldn't count him out of running that), but I don't how good of a chance Pifer would have. I suppose he does have pretty good finishing speed, but it probably isn't much better than Solinsky, McDougal, or Summerside. I suppose, depending on who enters the 5000m, Pifer could have a chance of scoring some solid points for CU, although I doubt they're going to run him in an event to try to score points for the school because I doubt they have a chance at winning NCAA's. Pifer didn't make it the 1500m final last year, but I think he did beat Manzano at Big 12's last year in the 1500.

First off no I'm not. runnerguy said that EVERYONE in this field had run 1:45/46. That fact is NOT true. Secondly, he said that Billy Berlin, a 1:49 guy couldn't run with anyone in the field because EVERYONE had these 1:45/46 800m times. Given Lancashire can run one, and I knew he could, but he did that LAST YEAR you dick!, who else has run that fast in this field? NO ONE! Lastly, the whole point in me posting this was to add Berlin's name to the list of people that matter. Not saying he is going to win, but he definitely has to be in the mix. I am sure two years ago when I was pumping Sean Duffy, you were the same guy saying that he wouldn't even make the race. Well 3:39 All American.

Oh and stop being jealous that when I actually do back up, I step all over my dick!

just going to throw this out there, leer is a d3 guy and thus will not be entered in the d1 meet. too bad for that, because he would turn a lot of heads as well as earn all-american.

Lopez Lomong (Arizona)

kasagule wrote:

Not sure if Lomong has the speed so I think Lancashire, Manzano and Rono have to be the favorites.

Are you joking???? Lomong has more speed than anyone one in the nation. He is the fastest 800 runner and could probably be one of the fastest 400 runners.

Just so you guys know, Ricky Barnes from UCI ran a 54.X last 400 in the Big West 1500m to run 3:42 along with philip reid.... He can kick with anyone if he's in position.

it'll be lancashire. AGAIN.

the430miler wrote:

it'll be lancashire. AGAIN.

Again what?

Can't remember Lancashire ever winning so how can he win again? Lomong has the best speed in the nation? I think not! Lomong has the best strength/endurance but certainly no more speed than Lancashire or Manzano.

dcfbhjk wrote:

kasagule wrote:

Not sure if Lomong has the speed so I think Lancashire, Manzano and Rono have to be the favorites.

Are you joking???? Lomong has more speed than anyone one in the nation. He is the fastest 800 runner and could probably be one of the fastest 400 runners.

What is your justification for him being the fastest 800m guy in the nation? And your belief that he could be one of the fastest 400m guys? He would get blown away by the top level 400m by about 3 seconds.

I think the race is going to come down to Manzano, Lacashire, Brown and Pifer. Manzano and Lacashire because I believe they are amazing talents and Brown and Pifer because they are both great runners who are seniors who are determined to go out on top.

According to runnerguy no one can beat Lancashire even if the kind ran a 42 last quarter. Plus, if this kid can't run a 1:45/46, he doesn't have a chance...right runnerguy/irun.

Russell Brown all the way

ill go on a lark and pick magness

Lets take a closer look at your idiocy...

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Hey wrote:

I would watch out for Billy Berlin of VT. He has gone 1:49 and 3:41 already this year, so he has the speed to match anyone in D1!

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runnerguy wrote:

How does he have the speed to match anyone in D1 when we are talking about guys who run 1:45/46 that are entered in the 1500? you make no sense"

Here is was referencing the fact that someone who has run 1:49 obviously doesnt have the speed to match the likes of Lancashire and Lomong (both of whom have run 1:47 or faster in the past year) or even Rono who ran 1:49 in his the middle of his conference quadruple. No where did I ever state that EVERYONE has 1:45/46 speed. You are putting words in my mouth and further making no sense. Onward....

Again, no reference was made to Lancashire being a guaranteed victor. On the contrary, I believe it is Rono's race to lose.

I never said Berlin wouldn't be in the final or in contention, I simply said you were an imbecile for saying "Berlin has run 1:49 so obviously he can match anyone's speed in D1". This is a contradiction due to the fact it would put him in the middle of the pack as far as 800m PRs go. This is why people like you piss me off. Now it looks like I'm bashing a really good runner like Billy Berlin (a person whom I defended on the thread bashing him for running in a sham of a meet in Nashville). I think he'll do well and wish him the best... you, on the other hand, are a pathetic, ignorant moron who continues to put words in my mouth and I hope you continue to run as slow as you currently do.

Tom,

I really wish you'd win. you're a cool guy. man, geez, mate....

y#a really gotta take it this time....hope'ya will,....

just give you my blessings...nothing more... hope you' lll win this thing this year,....

Just so you know Big west guy, Ricky Barnes did not run 54.x on his last lap. I was there and timed the leader (Reids) last lap in 58.9. Barnes was 10 meters back at the bell. That just doesn't add up. The announcer did say that Barnes ran 54.8 last lap but he was wrong. I think I could give him 56.8 at the best. Ricky may have been able to close very well on Reid who is more of a 15/5 guy, but, Ricky still lost, and at NCAAs almost everyone can run 57 last laps.

Although Barnes closed well off a very honsest pace, there was no way his last lap was 54.8