bloviating wrote:
You sheep need to wake up. Hall of Fame, All Star teams are created for sports talk radio to have something to talk about. Good thing we do not have this in real sports like athletics or european football.
Both were created long before sports talk radio.
A possible reason why Bill Belichick didn't get in this time around
The Imperative Voice Real13 wrote:
look, i get the "tom brady" argument, but he has the most head coach rings ever, 6, and that includes stuff like that atlanta comeback. plus he has another 2 rings as DC for the giants under parcells, which the critics forget.
i think the argument goes he got nothing done at cleveland, but his last year (1994) they were in the playoffs, beat the team that hired him (pats) in round 1, and that franchise is such a mess they've done it just 3 more times in 30 years.
or that his last years in NE were meh, but he got them back in the playoffs one of those years with mac jones.
or that his college team sucks, but that's one year.
the girlfriend is young BUT legal. normally this sort of secret blackball would be for something illegal. guy took roids when he hit those homers, so to speak.
personally i think it's a shoddy argument that misses he was known primarily as a defensive coach at first and associated with very good giants' defenses. then the pats championships.
i think the fairer argument is more like, he "got old." if you have eyepopping career numbers they don't usually kick your butt for staying a little too long. landry is in the hall even though the cowgirls fell off at the end, and his exit paved the way for the return to success with jimmy johnson.
i get "personalities" somewhat but when you have eyepopping creds they usually ignore you're a jerk. eg kobe.
Im just not buying the browns thing. The rest, yes, but every HOF coach in history has had stops with terrible teams an not won a SB. I think this is 100% political-spygate/Bolian/he isnt likable.
Now 3 days later i am seeing some pretty consistent backlash like I have ever seen against the HOF. Jimmy Johnson came on ESPN and called them A$$holes out loud...twice!
He also confirmed what we all know -- that spygate was a common tactic. It just didn't work well for most teams so they stopped. None of this even cheating if everyone does it.
HOF is looking real bad from what I have watched from the big voices out there.
The Imperative Voice Real13 wrote:
i also think "tom brady" ignores that the pats were built and rebuilt over and over around brady.
So true! Im no pats fan but that team on several occasions was not even listed as SB contender/rebuild project only to go right back to SB. That organization did no hold onto superstars. There were a few like gronk, harrison, Bruschi but largely they were rebuildng every year and sketchy on D going into the season only to have Bill coach em up at least on D.
Yeah, sort of a slap on the wrist. So no "wow, first year of eligibility" bragging rights but definitely next year.
Some think Kraft put the kibosh on him
First ballot only matters in mlb.
Bills young sqeeze wrote:
Obviously his warm and fussy personality had some effect on the voters.
Absolute crap. He deserved it more than probably any other coach in history.
I put him in for pulling the young hottie.
*buying the young hottie
Jordan Hudson wrote:
He's incredibly deserving of it.
He got caught cheating on more than one occasion. He should have been banned from football years ago.
Not to pour gas on this, but Brady without Bill, still a winner. Bill without Brady?
Exactly...
Jordan Hudson wrote:
He's incredibly deserving of it.
Deserving of being snubbed?
Here is a pretty good write up on what happened or may have happened.
Sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a Croatian ciach
do well. There is a little hope invested in Bellechick, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. Tom Brady carried this team.
JT20k wrote:
Not to pour gas on this, but Brady without Bill, still a winner. Bill without Brady?
Exactly...
Bill has more Super Bowl rings than Tom.
Its a good thing he's not in it. It really winds people up, which I believe was the primary reason to do it.
Yes, Tom Brady was responsible for holding the rams to points in the Superbowl.
I think he used a rarely seen 2-5 front to beat the bills in the Superbowl for the giants.
