Happy for Turner Wiley. I coached around Seattle in the 2010s and remember him as being a solid but not standout high school guy. I don’t think he ever broke 9:30. He keeps after it and a decade and a half later runs sub 2:10. Pretty great story.
broadcast team is fine so far but what's with this person just yelling "speed up/slow down" (to the pacers ?) incessantly
FWIW - he wasn’t saying this to us (pacers). He was talking to the driver of the golf cart. It certainly was annoying, but he left us (second pace group) alone pretty quickly.
Did S. Bruce and Taylor drop out? The app has their clocks still ticking at close to 3 hours.
Those two are playing out a string
I give Bruce credit for being good at marketing herself. At this point she’s a sub-elite runner and apparently she’s still getting a check from TrackSmith.
His running style just hasn’t translated well to the marathon. He should be a 2:05/206 guy based on his 5K time.
That's not how pace calculators supposed to work. You can only go one or two steps up in your predictions. From 10k to a Marathon maybe. HM to Marathon is a much better indicator.
Going from a 5k time to a Marathon prediction is just silly.
His running style just hasn’t translated well to the marathon. He should be a 2:05/206 guy based on his 5K time.
That's not how pace calculators supposed to work. You can only go one or two steps up in your predictions. From 10k to a Marathon maybe. HM to Marathon is a much better indicator.
Going from a 5k time to a Marathon prediction is just silly.
There clearly is a correlation. Typically elite marathoners get to within about 40 seconds of their 5K pace, 1min slower than their mile pace.
Show me a 5 min pace marathoner who isn’t a 4 min miler.
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I give Bruce credit for being good at marketing herself. At this point she’s a sub-elite runner and apparently she’s still getting a check from TrackSmith.
It's more sustainable for Masters Athletes these days, especially Masters women. Des Linden, Kara Goucher, Kiera D'Amato, Sara Hall, etc, are all still making a living off running well into their 40s. That said Bruce ran the XC Nationals Open race (had she entered the Masters race the next day, she probably would've won; her 6k split in the 10k was 21:02, and the winner of the Masters 6k ran 22:58, though it was much more sloppy for the Masters) and finished just one second behind Shelby Houlihan, then paced the Tracksmith brigade on 2:37 pace through 20 miles at CIM the next day. I think that's a pretty strong performance for somebody who is 41, regardless of what happened today.
My guess is she got paid the most to do the CIM pacing. I'm a little annoyed that World Athletics got rid of the Masters 4x2k relay. If they hadn't done that, we could have Steph and Ben Bruce on the same team!
That's not how pace calculators supposed to work. You can only go one or two steps up in your predictions. From 10k to a Marathon maybe. HM to Marathon is a much better indicator.
Going from a 5k time to a Marathon prediction is just silly.
There clearly is a correlation. Typically elite marathoners get to within about 40 seconds of their 5K pace, 1min slower than their mile pace.
Show me a 5 min pace marathoner who isn’t a 4 min miler.
Probably quite a few of those 2:10 Japanese marathoners can't break 4 in the mile.
Edit: you can probably change this to every single one of their 2:10 marathoners since their NR is 3:58. Okay the distance isn't ran much over there but even their 1500m NR is a fairly pedestrian 3:35.
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There clearly is a correlation. Typically elite marathoners get to within about 40 seconds of their 5K pace, 1min slower than their mile pace.
Show me a 5 min pace marathoner who isn’t a 4 min miler.
Probably quite a few of those 2:10 Japanese marathoners can't break 4 in the mile
I’d bet if they focused strictly on the mile, they could. Running 200 K a week takes a toll on your top end speed. You can’t have that at the mile distance. That’s why milers tends to do a lot less mileage than marathoners as the trade off doesn’t pay.
His running style just hasn’t translated well to the marathon. He should be a 2:05/206 guy based on his 5K time.
That's not how pace calculators supposed to work. You can only go one or two steps up in your predictions. From 10k to a Marathon maybe. HM to Marathon is a much better indicator.
Going from a 5k time to a Marathon prediction is just silly.
He is so much more talented than Joel Reichow who ran 2:09 at the hilly NYC marathon. Even Chepngetich would beat him by 1 minute.
Rojo...fer craps sake....read what you write. In your front page article you write " Wildschutt, the older brother of former Florida State star and South African Olympian Adrian, ended up fading to 5th in 2:09:40" when a couple of lines down the results show Wildschutt in 3rd.
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I tried to explain that to my Canadian friend many times
That's not how pace calculators supposed to work. You can only go one or two steps up in your predictions. From 10k to a Marathon maybe. HM to Marathon is a much better indicator.
Going from a 5k time to a Marathon prediction is just silly.
There clearly is a correlation. Typically elite marathoners get to within about 40 seconds of their 5K pace, 1min slower than their mile pace.
Show me a 5 min pace marathoner who isn’t a 4 min miler.
There is only a correlation between successful Marathon runners and their 5k times.
It will not work for any 5k time, if you are not putting in the training for a real Marathon.
Probably quite a few of those 2:10 Japanese marathoners can't break 4 in the mile
I’d bet if they focused strictly on the mile, they could. Running 200 K a week takes a toll on your top end speed. You can’t have that at the mile distance. That’s why milers tends to do a lot less mileage than marathoners as the trade off doesn’t pay.
I'd say so, given that Steve Jones who would generally be regarded as a marathon runner without a lot of speed, ran 3:58.xx on road and 4:01.xx on the track.