good point - what's the hotline to get WADA onto the 10 year old girl running 18min at my local parkrun?
I wouldn't bother. WADA can't bust the doping that is at the very top of the sport. But you have no idea when and at what age athletes could be using drugs. Drugs are known to be used amongst athletes in schools. You're obviously ignorant of the fact that the E Bloc and the Chinese doped their prepubescent female gymnasts to suppress the onset of puberty. Drugs are inseparable from success in sports today. That's why they will be found anywhere and even amongst school-kids.
If WADA won't do it then I'll do it myself by harassing the child & their parents every week about her performances being scarcely believable, PEDs in schools and demanding her biological passport.
I'll badger them in the carpark about how a 10 year old should not be baring down so quickly on Mary Stewart's times.
Every time that kid is on the start line I'll heckle her about whether she feels any guilt and if she is proud about what she's doing.
It's what we all should be doing if we care about the sport.
Snell and Ryun were genetic outliers - gifted athletes. Myers and Ruthe are no more genetically gifted than they were. Snell and Ryun were also coached and trained to their physical peak. The peak training capacity of a 16 year old will not be that of a 20-25 year old. I have read here that Ruthe is not training to that level. His body would likely break down if he did.
You’re arguing that higher mileage is always going to produce the best result in an athlete which is not always the case. Once Ruthe is fully grown in his 20s you could place him on the same training program that Snell used and there’s no guarantee that you would get a better result than a well thought out lower mileage program tailored specifically for him.
My point is not higher mileage per se but that Ruthe is not training at the level of former Olympic champions and world record holders. Yet he is running the same times. I don't find that credible.
By definition world record-holders and Olympic champions are gifted. But you are the one making the claim about outliers. So where does your expertise come from? Or you are just basing your claim on faster times - which can just as easily be attributed to pharmaceuticals.
By definition world record holders and Olympic champions are very successful. How they got that way is always speculative. The whole human genome has been mapped. No one found a running gene, an endurance gene, a basketball gene, a piano playing gene, or anything along those lines though genes that give physical characteristics which suggest success in various activities have been found.
But my original comment here, the first one you responded to, was not made to you and while it was fair game for a response from you I hoped there wouldn't be one. That's not because you are such a devastatingly good debater that I was afraid you'd prove me wrong. It's because I think you are a despicable person and I don't engage with despicable people if I can avoid it.
I don't know what you get from all of your carrying on. Maybe you think you need to let us all know about the presence and danger to the sport that come from PEDs but I doubt very many of us who hang around here need to be told about that. I neither know nor care why you do what you do but consistently accusing people of doing bad things or even inferring that they're doing bad things based on nothing other than your own beliefs is despicable and doing it about a 16 year old kid is infinitely worse.
So this is it, my last response to you. Enjoy your crusade.
Since you have made this personal you show your arguments are only a reflection of your animosity. That is indicative of how weak they are.
But on one specific point, it is a simple fact that to be amongst the best in the world (at virtually anything) requires giftedness in whatever qualities are required to excel in that area - whether it be sports, the arts or intellectual achievements. Olympic champions and world record holders are the smallest fraction of countless athletes around the globe. That means they are necessarily gifted. Hard work alone does not produce those results or you might have been an Olympic champion.
According to antidoping experts (on an Al Jazeera investigation into doping) there are at least a hundred substances out there at any given time that can't yet be tested for. WADA also acknowledges doping is in schools.
oh well,he'll probably keep improving,but peak at a fairly young age,like most teen phenoms,and ex teen phenoms do. 1.46 and 3.38 is super fast for a 16 year old.
It's better than super fast. That's why I remain sceptical. But it is happening throughout the sport now. We are seeing athletes scarcely in their middle teens now running times that only mature athletes had been capable of. With a sport that has been taken over by doping the conclusion becomes obvious.
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I wouldn't bother. WADA can't bust the doping that is at the very top of the sport. But you have no idea when and at what age athletes could be using drugs. Drugs are known to be used amongst athletes in schools. You're obviously ignorant of the fact that the E Bloc and the Chinese doped their prepubescent female gymnasts to suppress the onset of puberty. Drugs are inseparable from success in sports today. That's why they will be found anywhere and even amongst school-kids.
If WADA won't do it then I'll do it myself by harassing the child & their parents every week about her performances being scarcely believable, PEDs in schools and demanding her biological passport.
I'll badger them in the carpark about how a 10 year old should not be baring down so quickly on Mary Stewart's times.
Every time that kid is on the start line I'll heckle her about whether she feels any guilt and if she is proud about what she's doing.
It's what we all should be doing if we care about the sport.
You can do that if you wish. But it won't change the very limited capacity antidoping has for catching doping. Nor will it stop doping in schools, where it has found a place. But you could always choose to deny what has happened to the sport and bury your head in the sand, as many here prefer to do.