Making it to complicated:
Men's head - Darryl Anderson. He hires an assistant and is forced to keep Gary for a year, at which time Daryl cans Gary in favor of another area (read: no distance coach this time next year).
Women's head - Karen Dennies. She hire 2 assistants (throws and jumps) Does not hire adistance coach, but coaches it herself for a little extra money.
Bottom line, no distance programs really at all. The cross country men sink back to where the women have always been.
All the coaches are being replaced on staff except Gary who was told he has one year if he wants it. Gary will not be the head coach of the program.
Talk is of TCU head not sure his name, Fry of South Carolina. This job will be filled by a big name coach from a big time track program.
This summer will be very interesting with all the openings this will create.
Guys the guy from Akron is not a good guy..basically everybody that knows him including other MAC Coaches describe him as a moron. He is highly religious and kind of fake. It would be another huge mistake for Ohio State.
The actual coach that will stay , the distance one seems to be the only one that kept Ohio State from complete failure and brought unity to the team. A good move will be to have him as a head coach
I know Rob reasonably well.
He does not want to be the head track coach; he does however want to work with someone who is as organized, passionaite, and excited about Ohio State as he is. He really loves coaching and I bet he realizes that a great sprints coach is what they need.
I believe that anyone who is going to apply for the job had better make friends with Gary though; the Administration there loves him.
Maybe OSU would do Illinois a favor and help them unload Wayne Angel. Wishfull thinking...
Why on earth would they get rid of Robert Gary. He has turned the mens distance program around. The womens cross team has been getting better and will continue to do so. To think they would can Coach Gary is just retarded.
The only reason they would get rid of Robert Gary is if they had such a distaste for everything Russ Rogers. Everyone would be let go. I can assure you that Robert is not comfortable where he stands right now. There is no logical way he could be let go but Robert knows how some of these things work and doesn't feel safe.
Chad Meyers has been the women's coach for the past two years. They have done okay.
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The only reason they would get rid of Robert Gary is if they had such a distaste for everything Russ Rogers. Chad Meyers has been the women's coach for the past two years. They have done okay.
This is always a possibility. Also, the new head coach may want to focus all their energy on sprints, jumps, and throws since Wisco is has such a distance hold on the Big 10. Myers did a good job for what he had. The top Ohio talent wants nothing to do with a program headed by Rogers. Gary doesn't click with the women's team from what I've heard so he most likely will coach the men's side only.
I am not sure Myers did a good job...And I think Gary took women's program over last fall since Myers was doing a poor job with it...
I sincerely doubt that this scenario would play out. Robert is not only a great coach, but a two time olympic athlete, something that the higher ups at OSU feel a good deal of pride about. He is there to stay on the men's side. Womans distance however is a different story.
This situation is not going to play out with OSU making a simple or easy hire of someone who is convenient or will take the lowest offered salary.
Think more along the lines of what Texas A&M did when they hired Pat Henry and then gave him full reign to hire a staff of anyone he wants. This will happen for both teams at OSU.
That is how this will play out. This is going to be done the right way. OSU will hire the right man and the right woman for the jobs to be done. They will be given the resources to be successful and they will be successful.
Robert Gary is a big boy and he can take care of himself. If he is at OSU he will certainly continue to be successful, but you know what, if he is somewhere else he will continue to be successful. Good coaches are a dime a dozen, but good coaches who are also good people aren't always so easy to find. Robert Gary has nothing to worry about, he will be just fine anywhere he is working (probably at OSU until the day they drag him to his grave - the way it should be)...
Why would Gary not get the head job? he was good enough for the Illinois head job 2 years ago but decided to stay in Columbus.
Was that the Men's Head Track and Field Coach (3 years ago) or the Head Men's Cross Country Coach (1 year ago) at the University of Illinois?
I think it was the Men's Head Cross Country Coach last year and that may have been more of a show to OSU not to take him for granted, than really wanting to coach with Wayne at Illinois.
Robert should get a shot at the Men's Head T&F position. Hopefully, he will be able to play the entire situation out to his best interests. As I said before, I just think there are numerous conditions, including no longer competing, that he may not be ready to do right now.
It is cliche' but true -- "Robert holds a full hand of cards and he will, no doubt, play them well."
"educated guess" you are correct, 3 years ago. head mens track and field coach.
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"educated guess" you are correct, 3 years ago. head mens track and field coach.
Wrong! It was Head Cross Country coach under Wayne Angel three years ago. Angel interviewed Gary to be his assistant coach for distance and head cross. Ohio State upped the ante to keep Robert in Scarlet and Gray.
Hey I had thrown enough in there to be mostly right and then wrong and then kinda right again just before I ended it.
That is not too bad, at least I wasn't completely wrong...
Robert does not want the head coaching job and has said before he likes to work only with the men's cross team. He is in his perfect job position right now from his own words.
I know this for sure- whatever happens at Ohio State, Gary will be very happy when all is said and done.
He has a great sense of humor, is extremely motivating, is very good with all types of people. I think he could manage the men's side, but I think he believes a great sprint hire would be better for the team and that is why people gravitate towards his advice and theories.
Also, Gary is a lot shrewder than people who don't know him well. When he feels he is being screwed or needs to be aggressive, know that he will be. OSU knows what it is doing and Gary will be pulling some of the strings behind the scenes.
1st off, unless OSU hires a distance person to take over the men's program, whoever ends up there would be crazy not to keeo Rob G on. With what he has accomplished at OSU, along with the relationship he has with the current athlets, not to mention the high school coaches in Ohio, what better canidate would be available? And, on the off chance that Robert was let go, he would defenitely land on his feet somewhere. As great a coach as he is, he is an even better person, a class act who will excel wherever he goes.
It is a great thing to hear so many positive comments about Robert Gary. Where's there's smoke there's fire, and in this case, it is the kind of fire people like to see.
I mention this because I firmly believe that the demands of the college game, recruiting and fighting for resources in an adminstration, drive away quite a few both talented and charismatic people. And Gary seems to fit both categories well. And the accumlation of talented people is what will bring the sport back.