I mean it's not a secret there's plenty of people doping across all NCAA divisions and there's a miniscule chance of getting caught. What's the source though, rumored leaks on letsrun? Why would his teammates leak it? And how did he get caught, why would he get tested?
10/15/2025 - This thread started well before anything was confirmed by Iowa State.
A volunteer moderator deleted several threads on this topic. That's not the way this should work. We believe in free expression and have reinstated them and merged them into this one thread.
As we wrote at the time, "If there is no truth to these rumors, please contact us at letsrun@letsrun.com or give us a call at 844-538-7786 and we will be happy to delete them and issue a statement."
It ends up appearing that the rumors had some teeth to them. Earlier today LetsRun.com co-founder Robert Johnson emailed head coach Jeremy Sudbury to let him know about this thread and asked if there was any truth to it.
At 3:31 pm ET, coach Sudbury emailed me the following:
Hello Robert,
Thank you for reaching out directly.
There were team rule violations. I have worked with our administration, and the involved athletes have been suspended and will not compete the remainder of this season.
Have a nice rest of your weekend.
Jeremy
Subsequently the Stride Report has written an article on the matter:
BREAKING: Multiple Iowa State Athletes Suspended for Season for "Breaking Team Rules," Confirmed via Head Coach Jeremy Sudbury
Previous thread titles included, "ALLEGED Doping Bust at NCAA Program. What Now?" and "Iowa State EPO"
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they'll just cut the sport wrote:
Aijolk wrote:
Do you think that there is less opportunity and incentive in other NCAA sports?
Yes.
For example: Yearly cost to attend Northwestern University = $91.3K
How many pros in the US make more than $91.3K after expenses (coaching, physio, travel…) in sports other than Football, Basketball, Baseball and Hockey?
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I have no reason to believe these rumors aren't true. I also have no vested interest in the outcome of the situation. But remember the Parker Vably rumors that were going around to the point where multiple sources including coaches "confirmed" the same news that flat out was false? These stories have the ability to create their own inertia with everyone using one another to convince themselves that hearsay is fact.
I'll I'm saying is give it 48 hours before you decide what is factual if you actually care about being right on this.
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high school xc coach wrote:
is this the big news Rojo was hinting at?
No it isn't.
Look, I was away from the forum last night and saw this morning that a bunch of threads have been deleted. That was a mistake. If we know something is false or if someone is trolling, then we delete it. But a mod shouldn't just delete a thread because they don't like the topic of it or haven't personally verified it.
I have reached out to coach Sudbury at Iowa State via email
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400 busts wrote:
Stop recruiting from the most doped country in the world? Sure, the alleged person isn’t Kenyan but still
Lmao, a dude from NJ gets popped and its somehow the Kenyans fault.
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Before we hear from Rojo I have been going through whether or not this could all be true.
Letsrun rumors may have some weight behind them but they certainly are false 70%+ of the time. We all remember the big ones that were true but think about all of the mess that is talked on these boards that just eventually goes away.
But if I am the Iowa State coach I would have emailed rojo back by now. Yes, it’s Saturday. Yes, it’s an online rumor that likely doesn’t deserve your attention. But how often are teams/coaches publicly questioned to this degree and severity? It’s very rare and if untrue, I am denying the allegations unequivocally.
I have a hard time believing this rumor as where in the NCAA are they testing for EPO. Are schools doing this? Conferences?
So I lean towards untrue. Rumors started by another team or coach.
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The alleged athlete is still listed on the Iowa State xc roster.
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Chill, people — this EPO rumor isn’t as simple as everyone’s making it out to be.
I know everyone’s fired up about this EPO rumor, but let’s take a breath — this stuff is way more complicated than what’s being tossed around here.
Just because Lets Run emailed the coach and haven’t posted a response from the coach doesn’t automatically mean the program’s hiding something. If this even might involve a USADA or NCAA matter, the coach and school are most likely going to be told to stay quiet until things are verified. Speaking too soon can cross legal lines (FERPA, defamation, etc.) or screw up any investigation. Silence doesn’t mean guilt — it usually means the lawyers said, “Don’t say a word.”
Also, let’s clear this up: this isn’t a police matter — it’s a sports regulation issue. When people say someone got “busted,” they usually just mean and should mean a potential use or possession of EPO was uncovered. There doesn’t appear to be any failed NCAA drug test (did the NCAA even do any testing at nuttycomb?) criminal arrest, or police investigation here. This is NCAA territory, not law enforcement.
And honestly, the coach might not even know what’s true yet. If something was supposedly “found,” (unless it was also admitted to) they wouldn’t have confirmation it’s EPO until there’s proper lab testing and documentation. Even if someone “admitted” something, that’s not the same as an official finding.Plus, if the runner wasn’t drug tested, we flat-out don’t know. Anonymous posts claiming “he confessed and turned in others” don’t mean much without real proof. Let’sRun is great for discussion, but it’s not a courtroom or a lab.
Bottom line: if there’s any truth to this, it’ll come out through official channels —NCAA, or the university. Perhaps the university, newspaper or local press will take a Perhaps the university, newspaper or local press will take a lead? Until then, it actually makes sense that the program’s staying quiet.
So yeah, maybe the rumor ends up being real, maybe it doesn’t. But right now, there’s no verified positive test, no arrest, and no official statement. Let’s just pump the brakes on declaring anyone “busted.”1666 -
Oldtimer68 wrote:
Chill, people — this EPO rumor isn’t as simple as everyone’s making it out to be.
I know everyone’s fired up about this EPO rumor, but let’s take a breath — this stuff is way more complicated than what’s being tossed around here.
Just because Lets Run emailed the coach and haven’t posted a response from the coach doesn’t automatically mean the program’s hiding something. If this even might involve a USADA or NCAA matter, the coach and school are most likely going to be told to stay quiet until things are verified. Speaking too soon can cross legal lines (FERPA, defamation, etc.) or screw up any investigation. Silence doesn’t mean guilt — it usually means the lawyers said, “Don’t say a word.”
Also, let’s clear this up: this isn’t a police matter — it’s a sports regulation issue. When people say someone got “busted,” they usually just mean and should mean a potential use or possession of EPO was uncovered. There doesn’t appear to be any failed NCAA drug test (did the NCAA even do any testing at nuttycomb?) criminal arrest, or police investigation here. This is NCAA territory, not law enforcement.
And honestly, the coach might not even know what’s true yet. If something was supposedly “found,” (unless it was also admitted to) they wouldn’t have confirmation it’s EPO until there’s proper lab testing and documentation. Even if someone “admitted” something, that’s not the same as an official finding.Plus, if the runner wasn’t drug tested, we flat-out don’t know. Anonymous posts claiming “he confessed and turned in others” don’t mean much without real proof. Let’sRun is great for discussion, but it’s not a courtroom or a lab.
Bottom line: if there’s any truth to this, it’ll come out through official channels —NCAA, or the university. Perhaps the university, newspaper or local press will take a Perhaps the university, newspaper or local press will take a lead? Until then, it actually makes sense that the program’s staying quiet.
So yeah, maybe the rumor ends up being real, maybe it doesn’t. But right now, there’s no verified positive test, no arrest, and no official statement. Let’s just pump the brakes on declaring anyone “busted.”Literally no one cares what chatgpt has to say about the issue.
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Sus wrote:
this is just the start of it, every program should have to do mandatory drug testing now.
That could never work. Next thing you know, they'd be testing the football players.
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active d1 runner wrote:
I mean it's not a secret there's plenty of people doping across all NCAA divisions and there's a miniscule chance of getting caught. What's the source though, rumored leaks on letsrun? Why would his teammates leak it? And how did he get caught, why would he get tested?
*minuscule
And those are good questions! Maybe wait for more info before we pass judgment?
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Yeah, much more fun to just drive the rumor mill and have no insider understanding of NCAA procedure or how these cases or investigations actually work
lol
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They should test everyone in his program.
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And why do you think this would be productive? Do you mean test them right now or subject them to testing going forward? Obviously there are a few different types of EPO and many aren’t detectable for very long, especially if there’s micro dosing.
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TimDuncan45! wrote:
I'm also hearing he gave up 4-5 guys' names on the team also on a substance. Sounds like he got caught by Sudz and decided to bring down the whole ship. Doesn't sound like it was program sponsored but the guys on the team were definitely working together without the staff knowing. Not sure who the other names are but I'm sure we'll know soon.
I don't believe this but it would be insane if true oh my gosh
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Per TSR, Sudz has confirmed that several members of the men’s team have been suspended for “violating team rules.” LOL, this crap is being swept under the rug before it ever really got out.
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I'm shocked, SHOCKED!!!
It's time for USADA to do something and catch a masters triathlete that got an IV the day before a race and posted on IG.
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chuffer wrote:
Per TSR, Sudz has confirmed that several members of the men’s team have been suspended for “violating team rules.” LOL, this crap is being swept under the rug before it ever really got out.
oh my gosh its true. so what happens next? Tennessee has had two athletes suspended for doping, one during the season, and one during the offseason. The coach there had another athlete suspended for whereabouts/procedural while at A&T... and has faced zero consequences.
So, my bet is nothing happens.
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Stridereport talked to the coach.
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When asked if he believed that the suspensions would impact the Cyclones' postseason expectations in 2025, Sudbury stated, "The team you saw at Missouri is a team that is obviously going to do really, really well. No, I don’t foresee this impacting team performance this postseason."
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