Official William Goodge TransAus World Record Thread, Perth to Sydney, 35 days, 68.5 miles a day

Hi, they're "watch mulers". They do it at the Speed project all the time, where it's allowed. If you loosen the watch, or just insert a piece of card between the sensor and the skin, it collapses to a bogus, silly pulse of about 100-110, and then you can freely just share that watch around and no-one can tell the switch. He only ever has this super low pulse in isolation, surrounded by a few trusted worker bees, in massively high profile and ludicrously expensive projects that attract around a dozen sponsors, that simply must not fail.

He is always astonishingly brazen and confident with his claims, like here and the Transcon. How can he be so sure he'll beat the great Turnbull by 10% over 3800k? He carefully pays no lip service to how excellent a runner Turnbull is. That would open him up to sceptics. He is hoping his fanbase won't notice how absurdly different the two are in class. We have already seen the astonishing difference in ability of the runners at this event. Turnbull has done 20 less K, but out there nearly 10 less hours.

When WG gets into trouble in sanctioned, ratified, observed events, he STAYS in trouble. Very, very big trouble. We have 20 or more clear examples of those - really anodyne, sometimes disastrous stuff. It is not right that he should have a pulse of 108 to Turnbull's 137 on day 3.

In these very specific adventure runs, he never, ever fails. It is always imperious and hugely successful. It all started with Jogle in 2019, when as a novice he collapsed on days 3 and 4 [rubbish like 50k in 13 hours], but then rebounded and ran at often world class level, in a huge negative split, off a pulse of 105. And he never looked back. He turned pro when he realised that doing high profile adventure runs attracted significant media exposure and masses of endorsements from over 50 companies in the last 6 years. He admits that before all this he was broke and drowning in debt, but is now, by his own admittance, a very rich man indeed.

Spent the best half of today looking at Goodge's runs, clearly something is off, however, we are yet to understand how this is being done (I believe), if they were watch muling why does the HR drop? It would make more sense not to mess around with the sensor and just have his support crew take over then the HR would be somewhat consistent (just someone else's HR), it seems the only way to get hard evidence is for someone to discreetly go over there, hide in the bushes and film what is going on. ANy idea into how the specifics are done and what they are doing? Very intriguing discussion

Hi, the absolute key to all this is that in real life WG has super high HR, possibly the highest I've ever seen. His marathons are often up in the high 180s. Incredible stuff. And he is always thumping high and consistent on his training runs and ratified races.

If they didn't mess around the sensor, he would be doing 8.30ks at 122, and then someone fresh would come and and do 6:30s at 122 and it would be a LOT more obvious. Sometimes the mule massively exceeds the brief. Certainly this happened at Moab and many days in Transcon. Out of the clear blue sky you get a 10k in about 54 minutes at Transcon, when it should be 1hr20, but the pulse remains at 110, doesn't move at all.

But if they just have the HR completely and utterly random, you can't see the joins - it really is that simple. And when someone like me yells to Candice, the director of Moab, "did you see what he did for miles 120-180?" she replies, "ah yes, he must have had dysentery in the first half..." No way to argue against logic like that, and she is also a runfluencer and a big pal of RB and WG.

And Strava are terrible too. I send them him hiking in the Colorado mountains doing 8 miles in 5 hours at a pulse of 108, and I also sent them him doing 90k at 7:10 pace also at 108. And they wrote back to say, "oh 108 is what you would expect for a 5 hike..." Simply bamboozling... but they sponsor him so sort of have their own dog in the fight. They won't look at it properly.

A leading sports university immediately saw what was going on, and wrote to me this sort of thing comes across their desk all the time, and is a fairly new phenomenon called "digital doping." What a great name for it. Alas, they said for them to produce a thorough report, required £60,000. It's a sticking point alas.

Derek @ Marathoninvestigation looking into any of this?

Legit or not, this has all been quite fascinating.

He's been "off games" for a year or so, back now, but won't touch unsanctionned events.

He did though run a good feature on the fake Jogle record, which a no-hoper owns by, you guessed it, 10% [for 18 years, before Dan Lawson, the world 6 day champion reduced the deficit to 8%]. That is always the way. They don't just look to be the best, but think 10% margins happen and are normal in athletics. Ie, Johnson at Transcon, or WG here.

Looks like we have a little detour and at under 7min/km. That's if I'm reading the tracker right.

And yes, I'm up at 4am to watch, the team are about to arrive.

After following the Transcon post for a long time I was very interested to see how this went…. And it’s as predicted after only a few days.

One question I have, playing devils advocate, has the use of PEDs and other drugs been considered? Some beta blockers etc can have quite an impact on HR.

And on another note, I really must now stay out of commenting publicly on here now. This could become very, very serious.

It is good that whatever he gets, someone like PK will surely dismantle in November [off a pulse of 130-150], but there is a grave danger with some records that they will just remain forever, and the Jogle alas, is surely one.

When WG was alerted to the British Transcon record being 51 days, not 64, he merely shrugged and altered his sights, and only just fell short, with a 9 day negative split [about the 5th quickest second half in history]. But then put all over the media that he still got it.

Please keep vigilant and fully query if he doesn't have a normal pulse in the coming days and ask WHY? If it is a tech fail, they should be able to swiftly nail it.

I shall hereby pay $50k to anyone if I post on here again until 21 May, when I may file a report on the run. And I shall be working hard behind the scenes and feel free to contact me there with observations. Many are very concerned and disappointed.

Are you Sneakers in disguise?!

There hasn't been much talk of it, because there's no evidence. But one of his old rugby friends did join the debate and mention that peds were rife in rugby - even at amatuer level - and therefore there was a high liklihood of history of ped use.

What we do know is that he went on national television in both the UK and USA to claim that he was the fastest Briton to ever run across the USA - even though he knows that that is a blatant lie.

So I take the position that if he is willing to tell such blatant lies about something as big as that, on a huge stage like national television, why would you believe anything he says or does is genuine?

The guy cannot be trusted.

19kms today for Eleni, the beginner jogger who decided to put her name alongside Yiannis Kouros

I kind of miss Sneakers! Haha!

I've just messaged a few more friends who work in mining out in Oz, so there's more ready to head out for a glimpse of the wonder boy.

Again, instructions are clear - do not interfere, just watch, get photos, he's either running, or not. Be interesting to see his HR the next couple of days with eyes on, we know he (or team) reads these threads.

I'd advise him not to throw stones at 20 or so miners, that won't end well.

For the millionth time, slander is spoken, libel is published. Doesn't bode too well for legal type warnings when people cannot get this right.

Anyone following the Brooke McIntosh self promotion run around Australia? Going about as well as expected.

I have a feeling that if male beauty pageants were as common as female ones then Goodge would also have a history of competing in them!

It's a very sad reflection of how influencers are using our sport to steal all the sponsorship money that Goodge is far from the worst runner currently claiming to be trying to smash a major record!

I also noted that Brockmann hasn't bothered to mention Tsingas' world record attempt even though he was also out running in the same park as her today. Normally influencers love to cross collaborate, and he flew out to Perth to meet Goodge, but Tsingas is so bad she isn't even on Brockmann's radar, despite being an obvious copy cat.

I've just seen that she's claiming to be going for the female record. Does anybody know if there is an actual official around Australia record with a set course?

She apparently did 100k in 10 hours on Day 1, which is pretty bloody stupid if you are aiming for an 80k a day average.

Just how many influencers are currently going for multiday records in Australia?!?!

No list of southern hemisphere runfluencers would be complete without adding Shannon Leigh Litt. She is currently on day 473 of running an ultra marathon a day. Of all the crazy stunt running, this might be the craziest.

That's very impressive. Good athlete.