Does Alan Culpepper ever run to win?

Hey Thanks Flagga,

Im glad a few people on here understand what I'm talking about.

Some of us who think you're spouting kaka also understand what you're talking about.

Just remember, we're discussing the marathon, not 10,000 meters. You understand the difference, right - most especially the difference in the cost of a too aggressive pace and how and when you pay for it?

And who really believes that AC needs to be trying new tactics because, hey, he might learn a thing or two? Come on, he's a seasoned pro, not a high schooler.

Now go find that leprechaun you geniuses, there's a pot o' gold in it fer ya.

flagga,

Prune's "question" was merely an assertion in disguise. By asking "Does Alan Culpepper ever run to win," he is saying, that Culpepper does NOT run to win. It presumes he has some insight into the mind of Culpepper. His entire series of posts are a set of subtle putdowns of Culpepper for not living up to some take-no-prisoners standard that exists in his mind.

This is an tired old line on this board. We've seen it a dozen times before. Nobody (except you apparently) is fooled by the weak guise of posing his slam in the form of a question.

The gall you idiots have to tell a guy running 2:10-2:13 pace that he just isn't pushing hard enough would be funny if it weren't so appalling.

But you know better right? Keep it up, coach.

what you're talking about is some hollywood notion that if you're tough enough, and can just grit it out, you can run faster than you ever have before, regardless of how fit you are. it's all about balls. all you need is unbelievable desire and the usual rules don't apply.

well, prefontaine had desire and balls, but he also had an unbelieveable vo2 max and a very difficult training regiment that prepared him to run as fast as he did.

if you really want to convince me, stewed prune, post a record of all of culpepper's races in the last few years. show me that he's losing to runners with inferior personal records, guys who he should be able to run with. it's unrealistic to expect him to run with geb or tergat, i think you'd agree, or with some guy that has run 27 flat for 10k.

so enough of these random assessments. let's trot out culpeppers's record and analyze the facts.

I am confused. Did anyone watch Boston last year? Culp was in the front pack until the hills and then some surges when he could not hang and fell off the pace. What more is he suposed to do than that? It is not a matter if he runs to win, he was just not fit enough to hang with the leaders for that long.

He may not be good enough.

Case closed.

www wrote:

I am confused. Did anyone watch Boston last year? Culp was in the front pack until the hills and then some surges when he could not hang and fell off the pace. What more is he suposed to do than that? It is not a matter if he runs to win, he was just not fit enough to hang with the leaders for that long.

Then coming off the hills he ran down a couple guys who stayed tried the "hang with the lead group" strategy. But hey, why cloud the issue with facts?

Wow, I didnt realize that we had such a cool guy reading the board with us idiots. You really have me down! Are you in Mensa or something? Frickin nailed!

I cant believe you even come on here. It must just be boring.

That coach thing at the end really cut to the bone.

Basically there are 3 groups

1 Go balls to the wall Alan. What have you got to lose.

2 Alan deep inside somehow knows he cant compete and so just tries to do the best he can. Its not his fault the others are more talented than him. And I'm an a-hole for hoping he can do more.

3 I'm just an a-hole Know it all. Who group 3 could spot a mile away.

Actually Group three is the group that I would say is the most dumb ass group on the boards. Boring!

Citizen Runner wrote:

Then coming off the hills he ran down a couple guys who stayed tried the "hang with the lead group" strategy. But hey, why cloud the issue with facts?

Because those guys ran themselves too deep into trouble (oxygen debt) and came back to him, silly.

Precisely. Except that I was merely referring to the idiots who think they know better than Alan Culpepper how he should run his races. Not the board in general.

I don't come here for entertainment. If you do, perhaps you should turn on your TV and switch to the e-Channel. It sounds about more at your level of thinking.

Well I think it's fairly clear by now that you ARE an asshole know-it-all, but I don't know how many can spot you a mile away.

Whatever. You need to get something though your thick head though. And pay attention because I think this is the cause of your fundamental misunderstanding:

Alan Culpepper doesn't race in order to provide you with entertainment. No doubt he is crushed (as we all are) that you are bored by his racing style, but with that racing style, he has managed to get himself on a US Olympic team when hundreds of OTHER guys with your balls-to-the-walls style did not. How boring do you think it was for all of them to sit at home while he ran in Athens?

So I SUSPECT that maybe Alan has a slight idea what he is doing. Just a wild hunch on my part but valid nonetheless. I am CONFIDENT that it seems to be working out well for him. And I am POSITIVE that you have not a clue what you are talking about.

Actually Daddy I would think that Alan would want to run for peoples entertainment. The more people that watch him run the more interest in the sport, his sport the more money his sponsor makes, he makes.

Never mind that he is always talking about taking the sport in the right direction. That direction doesnt inclde healthy dialoge about our best athletes.

No we should all not watch or pay attention or ever question any athlete who is better than us. Yeah that makes for some interesting times as a fan.

I may not have a clue what I'm talking about with Alan's race strategy. Thats why I asked the question. But believe me. All professional runners want as much attention as they can get for their sport. Including discussion of race tactics.

You are kidding right?

Then you would think wrong.

First let's set aside the ridiculous idea that Alan Culpepper or anyone of these guys do it "for the money." I suppose they do it for the chicks too, right?

Alan Culpepper makes money by running faster than the other guys. Not by looking tough for the first half of the race and then falling back. How much money do you Josh Cox is making right now? And hey, Teddy Mitchell really took it out from the gun at the last US Trials. How much do you suppose he's making?

If there were a bunch of Americans ahead of Culpepper, you might even have a point. But there aren't and you don't.

Yeah. "Does Alan Culpepper ever run to win". That's a "healthy dialogue" all right. What crap.

Watch? Yes. Pay attention? yes. Question? Ah but you weren't "questioning" now were you? Yeah, yeah, I know, you put a question mark on the end of the post title so it must be one, right? Spare me.

Here's what you should NOT do: You should not assume that because Culpepper doesn't run in front the Kenyans he is not running for the win. You especially should not assume this since a) you don't have a clue what's going on in his head and b) you don't have a clue what it takes to run with the Kenyans in the first place. Your theory has already been shot full of holes with the way he ran at Boston last year anyway

The nature of your "question" already covered: It was not a question at all.

Oh, should I believe you then? OK. As you have clearly shown yourself to be an authority on this subject. You honestly think Alan Culpepper wants the kind of "attention" you're giving him? Oh my do you live in fantasy land.

e-Channel, prune. It's calling you.

I have another question.

If you dont come on here for entertainment what do you come on here for?

Tell me honestly that you dont enjoy being so good with the quote button......Come on you're friggin good with that thing. That doesnt give you enjoyment? Or entertainment?

I have another question.

Does Daddy frequently masturbate himself raw on internet porn because he has no life?

Please don't interperet that as a statement its a question.

Or is it a statement with a question mark at the end?

Or was that a statement?

Or that?

Stewed Prune wrote:

If an athlete in another sport was known for only caring about his personal stats and not whether he won or lost. The people in this country would eat him alive. Why not in running?

Because it's not a team sport so what he does, he does for himself, it doesn't affect anyone else's outcome as it would in a team environment.

He may think his best chance is running for time. If he runs one fast enough, he may wion one one day. If you run a certain time no matter what tactics the opposition use, if they can't run that time you still beat them. It's not that he's likely to beat the Africans anyway so he runs smart. It's called maximising your performance.

As for not racing every weekend, work it out, he's a marathon runner, you've only got a couple of those in you each year.

Daddy wrote:You honestly think Alan Culpepper wants the kind of "attention" you're giving him?

Nike just called, they want to give Alan his $10,000 bonus for having his name mentioned on letsrun.com more than 10 times in the past 24 hours.

Stewed Prune wrote:

Tell me honestly that you dont enjoy being so good with the quote button......Come on you're friggin good with that thing. That doesnt give you enjoyment? Or entertainment?

Um. No.

If you think that the rudimentary skill of being able to match up quote tags is something to take pleasure in, you need to get out into the world fast.

I have another question.

Does Daddy frequently masturbate himself raw on internet porn because he has no life?

Translation: I have nothing to add, nothing to rebut, really no defense at all since my post was so obviously the slam you identified in the first place.

Thanks for playing, little boy. e-Channel. e-Channel.

Stewed Prune wrote:

Or does he always run with a good finishing time in mind?

A.C. is an extremely competitive runner and is much faster than you'll ever be.