What physiological benefit could there possibly be to standing around for 15 minutes before starting your workout? For a race you do want to get your HR down and cool off a bit, but for a workout the whole point is to get your HR up. I think it's just a mental thing, those of us who trained with a team are used to the routine of meeting at the workout spot, changing into faster shoes, doing strides, etc. while we steel up for the workout.
I definitely see a benefit for the first one or two repeats from doing strides beforehand, but you could just as easily incorporate those into the end of your warm-up. Not necessary to change shoes anymore, there are plenty of super trainers now that are great for both the warm up and the workout. If you're just doing a workout on your own and have a fixed window of time, you're probably much better off adding a mile or two to your warm up/cool down than using that time just to stand around.
No, for a short to middle distance event you actually warm up to stay warm and get HR up. Cooling down and getting HR to baseline defeats the entire purpose. Now, you might be right over 3k or 5k..? But warming up right up to 3-5 min before the gun is ideal. Why do you think we feel so good on 2nd interval compared to first?
There was an old running book called Train Hard Win Easy about Kenyan training camps.
One of the observations was that the Kenyan runners of the time went straight into their tempo runs after their warmup jogs.
Although we can all agree that going from warm up to a tempo run...I don't think it matters one bit what you do as far as a 3 min break or 10 min break or no break. Tempo is going to be longer and you will get your target HR r whatever for plenty of time.
For intervals and races you could at least say you dont want to cool down at all before a violent effort.
They're definitely trying to A.) keep their workout limited to one single upload, and B.) trying to keep the elapsed pace the same as the displayed pace becuase it probaly looks more impressive. "look at me, no rest breaks for this guy"
I do this, but not just to avoid a sluggish first rep. I only race a few times a year, so I like to have my workout preparation resemble my race preparation so it doesn't feel unusual in a race when I have gaps between my shakeout, strides, and race start. I jog for 15 minutes on a park's dirt path (which is also slightly easier on my injury-prone legs than the track), drive 10 minutes to the track, do my strides, and wait about 10 minutes before starting the workout. Works for me, as my first rep is usually only a little slower than the others.
This is honestly crazy. 20 minutes of idle time between the warmup and the workout?
Pretty much, though I'm not totally idle. About half of the 10-minute "drive" between the jog and the strides is walking to the car and then from the car to the track, and I walk between the strides (6 for a total of 800m) and the start of the workout. When I'm in a road race, I have to finish my strides 10 minutes or more before the start in order to line up, or more if it's a big race and I have to get in a corral, so this seems similar.
P.S. I'm retired, so I don't have the time constraints that most of the posters do
I do this, but not just to avoid a sluggish first rep. I only race a few times a year, so I like to have my workout preparation resemble my race preparation so it doesn't feel unusual in a race when I have gaps between my shakeout, strides, and race start. I jog for 15 minutes on a park's dirt path (which is also slightly easier on my injury-prone legs than the track), drive 10 minutes to the track, do my strides, and wait about 10 minutes before starting the workout. Works for me, as my first rep is usually only a little slower than the others.
This is honestly crazy. 20 minutes of idle time between the warmup and the workout?
Pretty much, though I'm not totally idle. About half of the 10-minute "drive" between the jog and the strides is walking to the car and then from the car to the track, and I walk between the strides (6 for a total of 800m) and the start of the workout. When I'm in a road race, I have to finish my strides 10 minutes or more before the start in order to line up, or more if it's a big race and I have to get in a corral, so this seems similar.
P.S. I'm retired, so I don't have the time constraints that most of the posters do
I do this, but not just to avoid a sluggish first rep. I only race a few times a year, so I like to have my workout preparation resemble my race preparation so it doesn't feel unusual in a race when I have gaps between my shakeout, strides, and race start. I jog for 15 minutes on a park's dirt path (which is also slightly easier on my injury-prone legs than the track), drive 10 minutes to the track, do my strides, and wait about 10 minutes before starting the workout. Works for me, as my first rep is usually only a little slower than the others.
This is honestly crazy. 20 minutes of idle time between the warmup and the workout?
Pretty much, though I'm not totally idle. About half of the 10-minute "drive" between the jog and the strides is walking to the car and then from the car to the track, and I walk between the strides (6 for a total of 800m) and the start of the workout. When I'm in a road race, I have to finish my strides 10 minutes or more before the start in order to line up, or more if it's a big race and I have to get in a corral, so this seems similar.
P.S. I'm retired, so I don't have the time constraints that most of the posters do
I do this, but not just to avoid a sluggish first rep. I only race a few times a year, so I like to have my workout preparation resemble my race preparation so it doesn't feel unusual in a race when I have gaps between my shakeout, strides, and race start. I jog for 15 minutes on a park's dirt path (which is also slightly easier on my injury-prone legs than the track), drive 10 minutes to the track, do my strides, and wait about 10 minutes before starting the workout. Works for me, as my first rep is usually only a little slower than the others.
This is honestly crazy. 20 minutes of idle time between the warmup and the workout?
Pretty much, though I'm not totally idle. About half of the 10-minute "drive" between the jog and the strides is walking to the car and then from the car to the track, and I walk between the strides (6 for a total of 800m) and the start of the workout. When I'm in a road race, I have to finish my strides 10 minutes or more before the start in order to line up, or more if it's a big race and I have to get in a corral, so this seems similar.
P.S. I'm retired, so I don't have the time constraints that most of the posters do