Addy Wiley breaks doper Regina Jacobs US 1k record

I apologize, that was the WRONG link.

This is the link:

This glut of world records seems to be down to the new bicarb formula

I agree it's hard to get excited about her. I mean what are the odds that two of America's biggest 'talents' in history just happened to have coaches in HS who had prescriptions for testosterone and who gave them massages.

The idea that they ddn't receive testosterone induced massages is hard to believe and I think those massages have helped them for the rest of their careers.

Have you stopped molesting children in your basement yet?

I mean if it's ok to accuse athletes of doping without any proof whatsoever, then it works both ways.

LOL yes. Like when when BTC's banned doper broke the 1500 AR, after NOP's likely doper nabbed it from AW's banned doper. All coincidence of course.

Mods, please stop deleting posts in this thread. There is always a concentrated effort to abuse our automatic deletion system in threads regarding Wiley and it has pissed me off and made me want to allow more discussion on this matter than normal.

Here is what I posted about Wiley in the other thread.

I disagree with the logic of your assessment.

I certainly hope she is clean but given her associations, I'd say the odds of her not being clean are way higher than for some random runner. I would say the same thing about anyone who ever trained with the NOP as well or anyone who has ever received a massage from a coach who is in possession of testosterone which is the case with both Alberto Salazar and Nick Johnson.

Let me be clear. For the record, so we can avoid a lawsuit, I'm not saying I think she's on drugs. She's never failed a drug test and deserves the presumption of innocence but to think she's just as likely to never have been given an illegal substance as any other runner is absurd to me given her close ties to Nick Johnson whom we know had prescriptions for PEDs.

It's important to understand we know for a fact that Nick Johnson - the husband of her current coach - had prescriptions for both EPO and testosterone:

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=12093587

And what does "being clean" mean anyway? It appears that you can be clean now but still benefit greatly from past doping. I think the thing people don't get it is if you dope with steroids - it appears it can impact you for the rest of your career. It's never made sense to me that someone like Justin Gatlin could get popped, then come back and run just as fast a decade later while passing all the tests. Until I realized that there is a belief that your muscles remember what it was like to be on roids. That's why I believe in lifetime bans for doping.

WADA has studies on this in the past and appears to be doing another one right now.

Current study:

wada-ama.org

Identifying the mechanisms and biomarkers of anabolic steroid-induced muscle memory in mice and humans

World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA)

Open link

Past study from 2013:

wada-ama.org

Long-Term changes in human skeletal muscles after anabolic steroid administration

World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA)

Open link

The point I tried to make in my deleted post (thanks mods) is that unlike Kipyegon, running with WR incentive in a somewhat exciting Diamond League atmosphere, in the evening, with pace lights and a booming sound system, Wiley was instead out there soloing in an obscure meet.

Today she bested the 1000m times of Jemma Reekie and Mary Mora at the recently packed Diamond League meet in Silesia. (But obviously, she does not yet have the much more extensive racing experience in those venues.)

A 2:25 estimate is about five seconds too fast for me.

I have a pure 800 model of:
51.76 / 1:22.14 / 1:54.61 / 2:29.31 / 4:00.68 / 8:43.22

Keely ran 51.61 in May, so probably can manage a bit faster when peaked. Therefore, when peaked, her 1000 would be a bit slower than 2:29.31.

I have an 800 / 1500 model of:
52.76 / 1:23.73 / 1:56.83 / 2:30.70 / 3:57.43 / 8:32.56

Addy is now 2:31.49 / 3:59.17 (2023). ~3:57 probably won't make the US team next year, but ~1:56 probably will.

A pure 1500 model with Faith's 3:49.04 gives a 1000 of 2:28.43. Faith ran 2:29.15 in 2020.

As of now, the downvotes for this post outnumber the upvotes 4:1. As others have noted in previous Wiley posts, there seems to be a concerted effort by some supporter(s) to skew the upvote/downvotes in Wiley's favor to make it seem that she has broader support amongst the LRC community than is really the case.

Thank you Roberto. Glad to see you addressing the mods overstepping their bounds (specifically the swedish mod)

Food poisoning <> "highly suspicious"

Superstars make teams and run in DL events at the end of the season.

I haven’t deleted any posts in either thread but the way I see it, it’s a basic “duplicate content” thread, since the original one already includes the doping allegations. The difference is you probably started this one.

You think the details of this scandal and her progression amount to "no evidence"? You go with that.

So does the performance today (2nd in the world this season) give her a shot of getting into one of the two remaining Diamond League meets (better competition)?

Why do mods delete so many posts? Why not err on the side of free speech instead of woke censorship?

My little brother got steroids to help him grow and he ended up going 29:05 10,000m now I’m gonna give him crap that it could have helped his running.