Spanish 5000m champ Ouamaiz BUSTED. Same agent as Katir/Cacho...

To my knowledge Serrano also coached Federico Bruno from Argentina who was banned last year.

In other news:

Passant/Temp_Account goes home devastated.

Thank you Boss. High time that the discussion goes away from this presumed - most likely innocent - anti doping rule violator - who didn't really dope - to the actual thread topic, EPO.

Oumaiz also spent some time training with cheptegei in the nn running camp in Uganda

true, but then I hope you'll keep the same energy about all of Kipchoge's training partners that have been busted in the past 3years

Morocco had better result than USA and Great Bretagne in distance running in the last world championships (1 Gold medal 3000m SC + 1 Bronze Marathon + a lot of runners male better placed in Marathon).

Hope you will get an other "Coup de dé" like Josh Kerr.

And I still believe that East African are more naturally suited for distances from 800m to Marathon. Not because I'm chauvinistic but I look to the facts objectively.

Its not a few busts for non elite runners that will change my ideas.

We need to keep a body count, like:

Aden: 3
Sang: 2

Serrano: 2

O'Connell: 1

Salazar: 1

Schumacher: 1

Canova: 0

In the last 10 years Algeria was extremely present in middle to long distance running

Recall the exploits of Makhloufi in the 800m and 1500m?

Now they have an extremely bad political regime and they are paying sportively for it.

That's the rate that North Africa bring world champion exceptions since one century.

That is precisely the point -- this thread is not about me and my "pretenses", so no reason to troll me. My "pretenses" have nearly nothing in common with this case of a Moroccan-Spaniard busted for GRHP-2, running Spanish class times of 13:19, 13:06.4, 7:40.6 and 3:36.8, with a highest ever ranking of 57th in the world.

There is no reason for me to be trolled in the first place, now by three anonymous posters, based on inapplicable comments I made elsewhere about other drugs on a better class of running perrformances.

But if I am regularly trolled propogating such misinformation characterized as my "pretense", I am always happy to re-clarify the limits of my "pretenses" to those who seem to have misunderstood.

In the future, I am also happy not to discuss doping busts at all (as my bigger interest is in performance) if only anonymous trolls would stop lying about me.

Huh - then why do you try arguing about GHRP-2 with <I can't believe what I'm hearing>?

I don't fully buy into your thought process rek runner. So Oumaiz PB has over 1000 performances faster than it . But without a doubt his current levels enable him to function as a pro runner, get the prestige of running for Spain and as has been spelled out, denying others their rightful place in the world order. Many other dopers will have done likewise, the fact that their doping didn't get them to the very top of world class doesn't make it any less of an issue morally nor does it in itself give any indication of how much performance gain they got by cheating.

Can we all admit that most distance aficianados - even Spanish coaches apparently - think if you have ties to Morocco you are most likely dirty? End of story. Is that a stereotype? Yes it is. So it sucks if you are from there or have ties to there and are clean but stereotypes exist for a reason.

Look at the US runners with Moroccan ties - one fairly prominent one was popped- another who was way more prominent and whom I assume was dirty was not. I don't need a lawsuit so that's all I say.

Speaking of which, we are fast approaching the 10-year anniversary of Mo Trafeh admitting on LetsRun.com that he purchased EPO, but lied about having never used it.

letsrun.com

Mo Trafeh - American Record Holder At 25k - Caught With EPO, Is Retiring From The Sport

Robert Johnson

The 2-time Foot Locker finalist, 8-time US road champion, and the US 25k American Record holder was recently caught with EPO in his possession, which he admits to purchasing for intended use but never actually using. *Discuss

Link:www.letsrun.com/news/2014/06/mo-trafeh...

letsrun.com

Mo Trafeh: A Drug Cheat and Liar

LetsRun.com

6 months after confessing to LetsRun.com, eight time US road champion Mo Trafeh has been suspended for four years for using EPO - a drug he told us he only purchased, never used. Trafeh now admits to using EPO which he says h...

Link:www.letsrun.com/news/2014/12/mo-trafeh...

PS. Friendly reminder, you can be good in HS and still be a cheat. Trafeh was a 2-time Footlocker finalist.

Haha yes, I remember. And yes, you can be good in HS and still be a cheat, and drug cheats are typically liars, and using drugs in HS isn't exactly unheard of.

Huh? This thread is about an athlete busted for GHRP-2, and "I can't believe what I'm hearing" did bring it up twice already. On-topic discussions are generally encouraged in discussion forums. I would even think that is preferable.

But what do you think I am trying to "arguing about" with "I can't believe what I'm hearing"?

The second time he brought up GHRP-2, he wondered if it "is the new rocket fuel for athletes? 🤔". Me too! No argument there, although I was a little confused as the first time he brought it up, there was no hint of wonder.

I also wondered how "new" GHRP-2 is. Again, no argument with anyone really -- just a question with a possible answer I'm not sure of.

He also wondered what A-Rod was on and I posted a complete answer, according to a NYTIMES article.

Are you even capable of understanding what this thread is about? A runner being busted for growth hormones? Your inane political ramblings not only do not make sense but they have NOTHING at all to do with what we are talking about.

Yes another attempt to bash and make look evil a North Africain country.

Sir Einstein.

You think so? I thought it just dealt with facts. Nothing about Morocco is evil but there is a coach there who sure is. Morocco is not the only country with a doping problem. The US has one too. But THIS guy was a Spanish fella who was training with a doping coach in Morocco. Period. We didn't need your anti-west rantings because you did not like that fact.

The only person to be busted in Canada in the past 5 years was also Moroccan. He always had buddies fly over for races in Montreal and they would get dusted or DNF.

runningmagazine.ca

New Brunswick half-marathoner receives three-year doping ban - Canadian Running Magazine

https://www.facebook.com/marley.dickinson

Mohamed Aagab of Campbellton, N.B., tested positive for recombinant erythropoietin (rEPO) after winning the 2023 BMO Vancouver Half Marathon

Link:runningmagazine.ca/the-scene/new-bruns...