Yeah. He had no pop during a huge mileage marathon build. Much different approach than if he were aiming solely for the 10k. If he were to come back to the track in earnest he probably would have a decent shot at another top 5-6 finish at the trials.
What baggage does Galen have? The current U of Coach had an athlete test positive for nandrolone and it didn’t seem to phase the powers at be in Eugene
First let me say I truly admire Galen, he has probably crosse some ethical lines but he is more than due at least a coaching position. I think you answered your question - it’s his relationship with Nike & their haters. As is the case with Brosnan here are some who will say and do anything to cripple him. He would be foolish to walk into that situation. I find it unimaginable that with his success he faces these realities.
Rupp should collect as many marathon appearance fees as he can while he is still reasonably fast. He should be able to hype up a comeback 3-4 times before they realize that he is permanently toast.
Houston Marathon, 01/14/2024 then U.S. Marathon, Orlando 20 days later. Maybe enough time to recover for a twenty-something guy. How much did he make racing Houston 1/2 Marathon, January? Thoroughbred race horses can race (15/16 to 1 1/2) mile on 20 days rest. Racing 1/2 Marathon 20 days before an important Marathon? Not the best decision for an older fella. If he does go for 10000m, he needs to be smarter.
Houston Marathon, 01/14/2024 then U.S. Marathon, Orlando 20 days later. Maybe enough time to recover for a twenty-something guy. How much did he make racing Houston 1/2 Marathon, January? Thoroughbred race horses can race (15/16 to 1 1/2) mile on 20 days rest. Racing 1/2 Marathon 20 days before an important Marathon? Not the best decision for an older fella. If he does go for 10000m, he needs to be smarter.
Always easy as hindsight is 10/10, but you might be right. I never had good marathons with a half 2-3 weeks out. I preferred 4 - 8 weeks out. But of course this is just me.
That being said if I were him, I'd take a rest, run 5k/10k over the summer and try to run well at the trials. Even if he "only" runs 28:00 or gets ~10th, it will help his marathoning if he plans to go on.
Dude, how do you not realize by now Nike calls the shots at U of O? No idea what Brosnan has to do with him, but the two could not be more different.
Oh really, having toured the Knight Arena & temple like Jagua (Nike) Academic center sitting on Franklin Blvd, walked by the Nike Library & Nike Law Center, as well as followed the design - funding - & construction of the new Hayward Field I have a pretty good idea that Nike calls the shots there. Oh ya Galen ran for U of O.
This is a pretty hateful and toxic place; but why root for Rupp? He's been heavily associated with Salazar who's been pretty discredited. He also existed largely outside the high school and college systems, right? Was he a pain for the people in Oregon.
First. You compared Galen, a four time Olympian and two time medalist, who has zero social media presence, with Sean Brosnan, a high school coach who is like a moth to any form of attention. Why?
Second. Your assessment that he has baggage, without defining what that is or how it differs from that of, say, the current U of O coach, or his assistant coaches, is a totally vacuous take.
Yeah. He had no pop during a huge mileage marathon build. Much different approach than if he were aiming solely for the 10k. If he were to come back to the track in earnest he probably would have a decent shot at another top 5-6 finish at the trials.
If someone is fit for the marathon, they’re also ready to run a fast 10000m. Both distances require a 100% focus on strength.
If someone is doing a ton of marathon specific training they are likely not doing any top end speed development and will likely get demolished by those who have over the last 3-400m. Which is what happened in 2021 trials. And mega difference running 100+ miles the week of that 10k vs athletes who tapered.
Houston Marathon, 01/14/2024 then U.S. Marathon, Orlando 20 days later. Maybe enough time to recover for a twenty-something guy. How much did he make racing Houston 1/2 Marathon, January? Thoroughbred race horses can race (15/16 to 1 1/2) mile on 20 days rest. Racing 1/2 Marathon 20 days before an important Marathon? Not the best decision for an older fella. If he does go for 10000m, he needs to be smarter.
Always easy as hindsight is 10/10, but you might be right. I never had good marathons with a half 2-3 weeks out. I preferred 4 - 8 weeks out. But of course this is just me.
That being said if I were him, I'd take a rest, run 5k/10k over the summer and try to run well at the trials. Even if he "only" runs 28:00 or gets ~10th, it will help his marathoning if he plans to go on.
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This is a good post. If he is not done, I agree it would help his marathon to actually sharpen again at 10,000, then do another buildup for a fall marathon. Look at how Ritzenhein's marathon buildup under Hudson led to his epic 2009 under Salazar, the 12:56 5,000, the 6th place at the world championships 10,000, and the 1:00:00 half marathon after he sharpened from the marathon base. Frankly, Ritz would've run a much faster marathon at London with Hudson had he simply not gone out in 14:37 for the first 5k, especially with his common late race issues.
Rupp might be done though, and who could possibly blame him? But, why not run one more New York or Chicago and then one last Boston, if he's so inclined. Then call it.