To my knowledge, Michigan does just fine with recruiting. They recruit more out of state because people out of the state actually want to go to Michigan.
I get that, its a big country. but it feels more acute when its 2 national champs across the street...literally across the street from the athletic campus where your parents work and or ran. Gotta up that recruiting game!!!
A lot of kids don't want to go to college in the same town they grew up.
Also, you can’t pin any of this on HS coaches. If any idiot Coach comments on any female’s weight or appearance, there will be a complete sh*tshow meltdown following closely behind.
What if Dad is part of the coaching staff? What is their oldest daughter also had disordered eating? What if the coaching staff at Michigan are not willing to put up with this family again? What if Mom was part of a commission on eating disorders 10 years ago?
This is not a sparty get. This is a disaster in the making on several levels
Also, you can’t pin any of this on HS coaches. If any idiot Coach comments on any female’s weight or appearance, there will be a complete sh*tshow meltdown following closely behind.
What if Dad is part of the coaching staff? What is their oldest daughter also had disordered eating? What if the coaching staff at Michigan are not willing to put up with this family again? What if Mom was part of a commission on eating disorders 10 years ago?
This is not a sparty get. This is a disaster in the making on several levels
This article is a giant crock of ……..
Since you quoted me, I wanted to clarify that when I said what I said above, I was responding to mytwocents2 on page 3, in which he basically lamented the difficulty this issue brings for coaches. Later, mytwocents added that in his program they stress a healthy diet, hydration, and sleep, but otherwise steer clear. While I don't think this necessarily addresses these issues, I TOTALLY understand his position (see above). He would be playing with fire to step in and offer good advice regarding a potential ED. As it stands now, I would recommend that mytwocents2 only get involved if he felt that it was truly a life or death situation, and even then, there would probably be other ways that he could get the athlete off the team (though this may not correct the ED).
In short, my response that you've quoted is saying that given the current dynamics, HS coaches (or even collegiate coaches) can't be pinned as negligent if they do not call out a suspected ED or otherwise try to help an athlete. A coach definitely could be held liable, however, if they encourage these behaviors, so it could be tricky. Anyway, I was/am talking about coaches handling this issue generally, and not THIS particular issue with Rachel (which you are doing).
Regarding this particular case, while I don't want to wade into a situation in which I (and likely only a couple of people) know the actual details, I can understand your point of view. If Dad is part of the coaching staff, then it would be understandable why the other HS coaches weren't about to say anything. It seems like he should have seen it. Given the family experience with the older daughter and the Mom's extensive experience, it seems again that they should have seen it. As far as their relationship with UofM, that seems besides the point other than perhaps to counter that UM is losing the recruiting war. And, the only thing I can say on that is that if it's true that MSt is able to give everyone 4-8K (largely from NIL) and UM isn't doing anything... well, I know that would make a difference to me and my family.
I hope that it isn't a disaster for this girl or this family. I can understand the criticism that this article sounds like it was very fluffed. Again, I don't want to rake the family over the coals because I know that kids are their own agents that sometimes are tough to handle and this whole issue (including for families) is an extremely tough one. I wish the best for them moving forward.
All that said, I am sad that we're collectively where we are at on this issue, but I am hopeful that maybe things will evolve so that young people are better educated and that people placed in their lives are better equipped and supported to help them when those times come.
Young Ms. Forsyth just ran a 16:07 in her Michigan Region meet which broke Zofia Dudek's course record by almost a minute. Interestingly that was the same year Dudek went on to win Footlocker... Hopefully this indicates she is fully recovered physically from her ordeal and big things are in her future.
Young Ms. Forsyth just ran a 16:07 in her Michigan Region meet which broke Zofia Dudek's course record by almost a minute. Interestingly that was the same year Dudek went on to win Footlocker... Hopefully this indicates she is fully recovered physically from her ordeal and big things are in her future.
Ironically, Zofia Dudek graduated from the same high school that Rachel Forsyth goes to, Ann Arbor Pioneer.
Rachel just broke 17 minutes for the first time 6 weeks ago, so she is improving very quickly. It's also her 8th straight sub 17 race in a row.
But there is no way that Rachel Forsyth is a minute faster than Zofia Dudek was, because Zofia Dudek only missed the Footlocker course record by a few seconds that year. Either Zofia Dudek took it easy when she set the course record, or it was bad weather that year, or the course is short this year.
In any case, it puts Rachel Forsyth in serious contention for a national championship. It will be interesting to see which national championship Rachel Forsyth chooses. Is her team good enough to qualify for NXN?
Speaking of the boys race, the boy who won that race is a freshman from Rachel Forsyth's school. He ran 15:20! What are they feeding those kids at that high school?
Ann Arbor Pioneer/Purple Track Club has certainly been a power house in Michigan in the past. Especially when Rachels older sisters starred for the school. In fact Rachel and Sarah helped set the National Record for the DMR in 2022 which they still hold. As to your question though, dont know that the girls team is deep enough this year to qualify/do well on a national level. They are a great relay team.
Michigan may not get Rachel Forsyth, but have signed two good young girls for 2024 - Emily Cescon (2.08/4.23m/9.39m) and Stephanie Bertram (2.08/4.24m). Both are good cross runners as well.
All of Michigan runs 3 mile courses and they call them 5km. Go to Strava and look up the Benzie Pete Moss invite. On the CR 23 out of 23 kids that posted have between 2.97 and 3.02 miles.
All of Michigan runs 3 mile courses and they call them 5km. Go to Strava and look up the Benzie Pete Moss invite. On the CR 23 out of 23 kids that posted have between 2.97 and 3.02 miles.
Lol this is very far from the truth and if you're going off gps data then it's clear you're an idiot. Michigan has always been strong in cross country, as evidenced by their many national champions in high school.
according to MHSAA the girls record is 16:52 which might be in serious jeopardy with as fast as Forsyth has been running this year and also considering three of the first four races have resulted in new division records so apparently the course is running pretty fast this year.
according to MHSAA the girls record is 16:52 which might be in serious jeopardy with as fast as Forsyth has been running this year and also considering three of the first four races have resulted in new division records so apparently the course is running pretty fast this year.
