Huh? The article literally says "Study says 44% of IAAF World Champs athletes doped in 2011". That's actually quite old news - have you never read it, or are you just trolling?
Yes; but not at the WC.See I have read it and the follow up study on the questionnaire that broke all ethical rules of research .
I think better training is potentially a huge factor, with the "new threshold philosophy" playing the main role. Nowadays the top guys very rarely do any hard workouts at all. They do a lot of volume at threshold, allowing for more mileage at a very decent pace (but not hard!). Compared to hard fancy workouts, this minimizes injury risk (new shoes helps with this as well probably) but still has great training benefits in the long run. Not saying that these ideas are completely new, but after a long time of development it seems to me like some people (e.g. Bakken/Ingebrigtsen) quite recently found the "perfect balance", and we are perhaps now seeing some of the effects. Jakob Ingebrigtsen is a perfect example: He has trained like this for more than 10 years and essentially never had an injury. Of course this leads to an insane threshold pace, especially if you throw in some talent! (Yes, yes, this doesn't exclude the possibility of doping on top.)
To me it seems like it is not that long ago that VO2-max and speed stuff played a much bigger role for most runners, perhaps leading to more plateauing and more injuries, which in turn would lead to not reaching full potential.
Depends on this steroid. Designer steroids are also a dime a dozen. They are also the true 'training drug' for distance runners and as long as you avoid whereabouts positives there is never any reason you would pop hot.
Steroids have always and will always be the best PED for any athlete.
Alan
Evidence the designer steroids that can not be tested are “ dime a dozen”. Name one?
whereabouts get round is not like it was when USADA gave advance notice.
I never said they can't be tested for.
Here is one way to beat the test:
1. Certain steroids clear the system MUCH quicker than the steroids used in the 80s etc.
2. You can miss 2 whereabouts tests during a 12mo period (did it used to be 18?).
3. Train in out of the way 'exotic' locations preferably far from potential testers so the motivation to find you and test you is lower:
4. Use steroids all you want. Use. Use Use.
5. You fail whereabouts #1. No one is notified.
6. Use. Use. Use. Use.
7. Months later you fail whereabouts #2.
8. Ok now you have to be careful. Stop using.
9. Also depending on when they actually show up you may be clean anyway depending on the substance used. See designer steroids and micro-dosing.
An argument can be made that training shoes have allowed gals & guys to log mileage with a bit of a reduction in injury risk.
Racing shoes are not the reason.
Lights for pacer helps, helps the ladies at least.
Shoes may not be all of the reason, but they are surely part of it. Make a graph of the 100th best time NCAA, US, World at all distances over the past 10 years. There is a clear inflection point with introduction of the shoes and this was before people had been using them much in training. The most obvious answer is likely the best one.
When Oregon's Teare, Hocker, Hunter ran 3:50, 3:50, 3:53, they were some of the first to have the new shoes and their coach was giving them sub 3:50 splits to hit. They thought he was nuts, then they shattered the collegiate record and Australian record.
The last lap of a lot of recent record races looks inhuman. It would not be completely shocking if there is a new drug or a refined method of using an existing drug or cocktail also helping the slew of records.
Evidence the designer steroids that can not be tested are “ dime a dozen”. Name one?
whereabouts get round is not like it was when USADA gave advance notice.
I never said they can't be tested for.
Here is one way to beat the test:
1. Certain steroids clear the system MUCH quicker than the steroids used in the 80s etc.
2. You can miss 2 whereabouts tests during a 12mo period (did it used to be 18?).
3. Train in out of the way 'exotic' locations preferably far from potential testers so the motivation to find you and test you is lower:
4. Use steroids all you want. Use. Use Use.
5. You fail whereabouts #1. No one is notified.
6. Use. Use. Use. Use.
7. Months later you fail whereabouts #2.
8. Ok now you have to be careful. Stop using.
9. Also depending on when they actually show up you may be clean anyway depending on the substance used. See designer steroids and micro-dosing.
10. Don't use during competition.
Alan
1. Which steroids ?
2.Agreed; but now Adams and intelligent testing makes risking a third( in 18 mths and not 12…. do read )a huge risk. Also tampering makes giving evasive answers a 4 yr ban).
3,Again Adams and intelligent testing.
4. Drivel
5.Drivel.. Adams send info to all testing bodies.
6. More drivel .
7. They can return next day after a test problem.
8.Yes and be 100% compliant with whereabouts requirements.
That style of training is not new, but maybe more refined.
My college team did it in the 80s, 90s. We got on the podium at the NCAA CC championship. Our coach often used Lydiard phrases like "Train, don't strain" and we did a ton of interval volume at race pace with short rest, longish "tempo" runs, and the only thing faster was strides. We were constantly tired, but rarely sore and fried. When we tapered, it was like releasing the wild dog from the leash.
Everybody did not change their training method all at once. So that does not account for an immediate shift in race times. Drugs maybe, but again it coincided exactly with the introduction of the shoes.
That style of training is not new, but maybe more refined.
My college team did it in the 80s, 90s. We got on the podium at the NCAA CC championship. Our coach often used Lydiard phrases like "Train, don't strain" and we did a ton of interval volume at race pace with short rest, longish "tempo" runs, and the only thing faster was strides. We were constantly tired, but rarely sore and fried. When we tapered, it was like releasing the wild dog from the leash.
Everybody did not change their training method all at once. So that does not account for an immediate shift in race times. Drugs maybe, but again it coincided exactly with the introduction of the shoes.
Also coincides with post-covid. That's a lot of time for drug infused training. Recent results could be from that.
Back then there wasn't a hemotocrit limit, no biopassport, no HGH test, new EPO test around that time that caught absolutley nobody.
Now there's super spikes, L-carnitine, testosterone cream, better testing for blood doping and EPO + biopassport, and pacing lights.
I'm not convinced overall training is that much better, maybe more mileage, more threshold, less Seb Coe ran <30 miles per week lies. Double threshold? El G was doing two runs at around 5:00/mile most days so I'd call that double threshold combined with double blood doping. The shoes are the biggest change, making up for hematocrit and biopassport.
Certainly you mean training shoes. Can't be racing shoes because 800m records are not being threatened.
800m times are less affected by the new spikes, partly due to less time in the event, and less effect of the spike as 800m runners were already on their toes the entire race anyway with stiff spikes on, and also there is no one challenging Rudisha's talent. Brazier possibly if he could stay healthy. Top women's 800m times have come down have they not?
That style of training is not new, but maybe more refined.
My college team did it in the 80s, 90s. We got on the podium at the NCAA CC championship. Our coach often used Lydiard phrases like "Train, don't strain" and we did a ton of interval volume at race pace with short rest, longish "tempo" runs, and the only thing faster was strides. We were constantly tired, but rarely sore and fried. When we tapered, it was like releasing the wild dog from the leash.
Everybody did not change their training method all at once. So that does not account for an immediate shift in race times. Drugs maybe, but again it coincided exactly with the introduction of the shoes.
Also coincides with post-covid. That's a lot of time for drug infused training. Recent results could be from that.
I watched a bit the women discus throw in Olso for the first time since years ago. My god ! They are awfully masculine. More than male sprinters. Big adam's apple. Not different from east germany athletes.
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