Out of competition test 10/11 Post Cross country Nationals Test 11/2 Out of competition test 2/20 Post USATF Road mile 4/25 Out of competition test 5/15 *Plus two passed USADA tests
There IS no other athlete, NCAA, NAIA, NJCAA, whatever division you want, that is and has been tested (and passed), and TESTED CLEAN as much as Wiley over the past 12 months.
Assuming those dates are accurate, a three month "out of competition" window is big enough for the entire Ma's army to have run through. And even athletes in the elite testing pool know how to game the system. But maybe that three month window explains the difference between Drake Relays and Music City, when they knew they were in the clear
Way to completely ignore the fact she ran really well at the road mile (with a drug test) to try and make your argument relevant. Maybe she just did run well at Drake? In the could temps/rain with the winner only being 4:09. Your dumb.
Out of competition test 10/11 Post Cross country Nationals Test 11/2 Out of competition test 2/20 Post USATF Road mile 4/25 Out of competition test 5/15 *Plus two passed USADA tests
There IS no other athlete, NCAA, NAIA, NJCAA, whatever division you want, that is and has been tested (and passed), and TESTED CLEAN as much as Wiley over the past 12 months.
In 2019 Shelby Houlihan passed 22 USADA tests - more than **any other American athlete in the sport of track and field** - not to mention any additional tests carried out by the AIU and at other international competitions. In fact, she was the 2nd most tested athlete across all the major endurance sports under USADA's permit - that's across cycling, swimming, and triathlon - only one athlete was tested more.
Boy, sure would be surprising if she tested positive for anything!
Drake Relays and Music City were two very different races/elements. One would know this by looking at the race as a whole, and not just results. Drake was 45 degrees, rain, wet track, wind was a factor. Music City was 90 degrees, no wind, and a fast field (multiple PR’s/Season Bests).
If her coaches truly are miracle workers and her performances are indeed not at all related to the shady dealings of her staff, there's an incredible future in store for her. So that necessary statement out of way...
She's young enough that we don't need to put her in a 1500 box and that it's entirely likely a 25-30 year old Wiley will be a different animal altogether at lower or higher distance. Consistently we've seen this with US female runners.
And even if this is where she lands (it would be ridiculous not to experiment in off years with other distances for development sake), it's as good a start to a 1500 runner career as we could hope for.
I just really hope she gets the lack of testing/guilty by association issues out of the way soon so we can jump on the bandwagon.
How is it a good start if she is doping? It's just smoke and mirrors. If she was not American, no one would think she is clean
Besides, didn't she refuse to cooperate with the investigation into her coaches? The whole thing sends a bad message to other teens and college kids.
If her coaches truly are miracle workers and her performances are indeed not at all related to the shady dealings of her staff, there's an incredible future in store for her. So that necessary statement out of way...
She's young enough that we don't need to put her in a 1500 box and that it's entirely likely a 25-30 year old Wiley will be a different animal altogether at lower or higher distance. Consistently we've seen this with US female runners.
And even if this is where she lands (it would be ridiculous not to experiment in off years with other distances for development sake), it's as good a start to a 1500 runner career as we could hope for.
I just really hope she gets the lack of testing/guilty by association issues out of the way soon so we can jump on the bandwagon.
How is it a good start if she is doping? It's just smoke and mirrors. If she was not American, no one would think she is clean
Besides, didn't she refuse to cooperate with the investigation into her coaches? The whole thing sends a bad message to other teens and college kids.
All this plus she called the other victims liars and defended the coaches.
Not as dumb as the argument that not failing a test=clean. Especially someone directly tied to a doping scandal. Everyone here knows that this is a dishonest argument. How many tests did Houlihan pass? Did Lauren Johnson ever fail a test? And yet the suspicions are obvious. The dopers know how to beat the tests and routinely do. Even the most vigorous testing barely scratches the surface, so listing test results is meaningless. It means you did not test positive, not that an athlete is clean. The simple fact is the scandal and her coaches makes it impossible to believe anything, and you can grasp at any straw you want.
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But the point is (without going into detail here) those texts were allegedly not lining up with their side of the story.
Don't you think the police have his phone? He's charged
Of course, and not convicted yet.
Cut the inane comments, already. You started it by calling her a flat out liar regarding the victims, and I simply explained she seemed to see text evidence that actually contradicted their stories. That is all out there.
I drove past a speed camera every day in 2019 and never received a fine. My first fine came a year later f9r going 67 in a 55. What does that have to do with the hundreds of times I passed the camera in 2019?when Tuohy fails her first test as a pro, does it mean that she was doping in HS and college?
Not as dumb as the argument that not failing a test=clean. Especially someone directly tied to a doping scandal. Everyone here knows that this is a dishonest argument. How many tests did Houlihan pass? Did Lauren Johnson ever fail a test? And yet the suspicions are obvious. The dopers know how to beat the tests and routinely do. Even the most vigorous testing barely scratches the surface, so listing test results is meaningless. It means you did not test positive, not that an athlete is clean. The simple fact is the scandal and her coaches makes it impossible to believe anything, and you can grasp at any straw you want.
Different sport, but there was also this dude named Lance. Rode a bike fast. Passed lots of drug tests. Until he didn’t.
Don't you think the police have his phone? He's charged
Of course, and not convicted yet.
Cut the inane comments, already. You started it by calling her a flat out liar regarding the victims, and I simply explained she seemed to see text evidence that actually contradicted their stories. That is all out there.
WOW. You clearly don't know much about the multiple cases going back to 2020, or understand them
Cut the inane comments, already. You started it by calling her a flat out liar regarding the victims, and I simply explained she seemed to see text evidence that actually contradicted their stories. That is all out there.
WOW. You clearly don't know much about the multiple cases going back to 2020, or understand them
Tuohy isn't coached by coaches implicated in doping and worse. Something like EPO, which is what they are accused of giving their athletes, is almost impossible to catch (with microdosing it is only detectible for mere hours) and results in a major boost in performance. Even targeted testing won't catch it. So even if someone had inside info about supposed out of competition tests, it means nothing. That is why doping busts are based on intelligence information and not testing, like the Festina scandal, Operacion Puerta, US Postal, Balco. Here we have that.