Have you managed to reduce cholesterol naturally and if so, how

There are links to scientific studies in the "blog" but you are too close minded to read it.

The studies are linked within here:

jeffnobbs.com

Death by Vegetable Oil: What the Studies Say

In a world without vegetable oil, we may be twenty pounds lighter, have half the amount of heart disease and cancer, live longer, think clearer, feel better, and be happier and less depressed.

Link:www.jeffnobbs.com/posts/death-by-veget...

You are projecting - i read through the blog but i don't trust a blogger with no credentials to review literature for me.

I urge any other young guys on here to get and HOLD ONTO your blood work from your teenage years.

I have full records of all my blood work going back to age 11, and even scant records from before that. Sex hormones, reactive protein, pituitary hormones, the whole 9yd. This I think is necessary to establish a baseline. it can really help others into running, fitness, biohacking, health whatever.

I say all of this to preface - one side of my family has great cholesterol - it seems like the father’s side of my mother has good cholesterol levels, and the maternal side has higher LDL relative to total, but neither had obesity or CVD.

father’s side is older and IDK much about their health metrics. Gramps was too old-fashioned and passed long before the Internet, so he likely never got any blood work until his final days of stroke, that which was strictly for diagnosis of an acute condition.

My father has high LDL and total, and my mother has high HDL and low total. I follow after my mother. Even when I took aromatase inhibitors, drank a few times a week, and got up to 20% bodyfat, my LDL never exceeded 85mg/dl and HDL never dropped below 60. Triglycerides have always been under 90, usually 70, and as low as 45. I’m at my lifetime healthiest, mentally sharpest, strongest, most athletic, and haven't yet begun to hit the aging wall (wrinkles, greying, and the like) , here at age 27, which is more than anyone in my family could have said at this age, and it has to do with weight training, meditation, not using drugs or alcohol, cardio, yoga, and lots of nonspecific sports training and a whole lot of “play”, essentially. And I eat very balanced-ly

Fat doesn't hurt people. Sugar doesn't hurt people. The combination of fat and sugar is what hurts people.

Seed oils by themselves wouldn't be an issue but they were introduced along with massive amounts of sugar and highly processed carbs.

There is a very clear correlation between obesity in the population and the introduction of sugar and food oils.

A lot isn’t just genetic. My mom is like, 30-35% bodyfat. My dad is about 26-29%, which he would deny out of delusion. Both parents are cardiovascularly fit, and my father has the ego drive that allowed him to play basketball in high school as one of the only caucasians on the team, but he never reached the heights of which he was capable, and I know that he has deep regrets about this.

as such, my father denies all wrongdoing in his diet and overt focus on one or two elements of health, touting his cycling VO2 max and wattage as paramount to all else, and denying the buildup of visceral fat and years of plaque buildup which caused him a brush with death by MI - but the fact remains that my father is too high in bodyfat, focuses too little on balanced diet to maintain low glycemic variability, antioxidant activity, and health of filtration organs, and would prefer rest on his narrow-scope of fitness and gorge on junk food to maintain a potbelly at only 24.high BMI, 182cm

You admitted that nutritional studies weren't very good. The literature you're relying on is flawed at best.

Different diets work well for different people. We're not all the same. Some people are sensitive to gluten, some people are sensitive to lactose. What works for you won't work for other people.

The oxidation of vegetable oils destroy your mitochondria and the ability to process sugar. Americans are eating way too much sugar as well but the main driver is the vegetable oils. Cholesterol got the blame when it was the seed oils and the sugar causing inflamation in the arteries.

There are people who smoke 3 packs of cigarettes a day and never get lung cancer. Just because you are the outlier does not mean vegetable oils are not poisoning the general population. Vegetable oil consumption went from not being consumed in the early 1900's to being the main source of calories from fat in the American diet today. Is chronic disease better or worse today, what about obesity?

Other predictors of heart disease are smoking, diabetes, blood pressure, overall cardiovascular health.

BTW when I started running, my cholesterol levels were fairly high. I lost 40lbs, started lifting and training for a 5k with mostly intervals and short tempo runs, and cut back bigtime on beer, my cholesterol levels fell well into the normal range. Oddly enough they went up when I stopped lifting and trained for my only marathon, which was mostly lots of easy running.

I never stopped eating beef, eggs, pizza, etc. in moderation.

300 years ago, you had to confess your bad thoughts to a properly ordained pedophile in an embroidered robe; today you must submit your blood to a properly ordained drug pusher in a white coat. The psychopaths running the system have never even had to take a break from laughing all the way to the bank.

nutritional studies are always challenging and have many confounding variables that make solid conclusions hard to make. this applies to any studies that show benefit from keto. in general any diet the demonizes or entirely removes a food group is just not necessary. if you prefer a specific diet to get into a caloric deficit, im all for it. there is just no inherent benefit to keto or any other diet to do that.

the amount of nutjobs on this site is fascinating to me

Hunger is hormonal. In a traditional diet hunger must be suppressed using will power.

On a ketogenic diet hunger is suppressed hormonally.

You simply do not understand what you're talking about.

you are completely obnoxious in claiming that a medical doctor who has taken more biochemistry in his training than you ever will does not understand what he’s talking about, especially when these are particular areas of interest for me- but thats all you can do is try to attack me when your entire premise is as weak as your own cognitive abilities. hunger is hormonally driven- im well acquainted with the complex interactions of hormones like leptin and ghrelin. appetite suppression is not unique to keto diets. any diet with a caloric deficit will at some point induce hunger as body fat levels drop and signaling from leptin decreases. additionally, keto diets require will power outside of just hunger- that is to eat a diet devoid of delicious fruits, grains, or other carb sources. you are obsessed with trying to prove a point about your little keto diet that just objectively doesnt exist. you seem incapable of understanding what im talking about, which is the trouble with arguing with lay people.

Yup. Been there, done that 1000x with these Fringe/fad diet lunatics/cultists.

Don't waste any more time it is absolutely pointless. It's like trying to convince a trumptard MAGAt that the election was not actually stolen from Trump.

You have no idea what my background or education is you arrogant fool.

If you're not lying about being a doctor you know full well that the amount of time dedicated to nutrition is laughable.

The benefit of being in ketosis is that that the caloric deficit does NOT create the hunger response created by a caloric deficit in traditional diets. Keto regulates blood sugar.

You're not "arguing" you're standing on your supposed degree and declaring your opinion is correct without evidence.

You openly admit that nutrition studies are garbage and then try to ignore any study that doesn't support your argument and declare the half that does is gospel. That's absurd.

i can tell based on what you are saying and inability to interpret literature that your background is not in anything science related. id bet money on it- its that obvious.

blood sugar is not the driver of appetite on diets that you think it. as fat is lost, leptin levels plummet and ghrelin increases. over time hunger can be an issue especially if fat loss is rapid or the diet too restrictive. ketogenic diets do induce hunger suppression in some people but this is highly subjective. high protein and fat diets in general do this so it would make sense that a keto diet would as well, but ketosis is not at all mandatory for appetite control. intermittent fasting also has appetite suppressing effects. all i have ever been arguing with you is that keto diets arent special or superior. i acknowledge the limitations in all diet studies and thats why i advocate for any diet that leads to caloric control and balanced intake of nutrients. you are in the keto cult or something and cant even see that what i am saying is very reasonable. if keto works for you, and carbs work for me (as they definitely do) to achieve the same goals, i think my point is pretty well made without even having to reference a complicated study you cant understand.

it’s insane man- everything is a conspiracy, expertise is meaningless. so interesting how this regression is occurring with a portion of the population.