In my opinion, the most pressing debate that we should have isn't between the lab leak theory and natural origin theory, but why the "scientific community" and main stream media engaged in the disinformation of trying to paint the very much plausible hypothesis of a lab leak as a conspiracy theory?
Because it was started by Trump. He knew before everyone that catching COVID was a two-week illness, and therefore would be entire extinct on planet in two-weeks. President IQ45 failed to understand how a virus works. When COVID lasted longer than Trump's promised two-weeks it became a conspiracy theory. Trump immediately pointed the finger at China.
The question is: How did President IQ45 know so much about COVID before the scientific community was aware? He was bigly losing his trade war with China. The U.S Army was experimenting with COVID samples (obtained from the Wuhan lab) to develop vaccines for troops. An classified intel briefing with the U.S. Army's COVID team is likely where Trump got his information. Anyway, he knew far too much about COVID when it was "accidentally" release in China.
Trump made a statement on the lab origin theory that, for him, was bizarre. Trump usually loves to talk about anything, but check out his response to this question.
It was so odd I saved the video and commented on it back in 2021 on this board. You can hear it starting at 35 seconds into this video.
Reporter: What gives you a high degree of confidence that this originated from the Wuhan Institute of Virology?
Trump: I can't tell you that... I'm not allowed to tell you that.
This was delivered almost as one sentence and Trump abruptly turned away to discourage any followup.
Why would Trump give such an un-Trump like response? Why would he say that he WASN'T ALLOWED TO TELL US?
My guess is that Trump knew it was from WIV because we had an informer in the institute who told us. Trump couldn't say that because it would blow the spy's cover.
President Donald Trump contradicted a rare on-the-record statement from his own intelligence community by claiming Thursday that he has seen evidence that gives him a "high degree of confidence" the novel coronavirus originat...
True. With China withholding information and the left showing zero interest in pursuing COVID origin, but all willing to accept the natural origin theory and be done with it, of course it's hard to prove anything conclusively.
But remember, at the beginning of the pandemic, according to the "Scientific consensus" and the main stream media, the lab leak theory had been conclusively "conspiracy theory".
Not how I remember it. I remember reading it was one of many possibilities, but we had no idea yet how it came to be.
Here's NPR calling it a "baseless conspiracy theory" discredited by scientists.
A new poll finds 40% of respondents believe in a baseless conspiracy theory that the coronavirus was created in a lab in China.
There is zero evidence for this. Scientists say the virus was transmitted to humans from another species.https://t.co/GDTo2geUng
Here's a Washington Post leading fact checker saying a lab leak is "virtually impossible"
I fear @tedcruz missed the scientific animation in the video that shows how it is virtually impossible for this virus jump from the lab. Or the many interviews with actual scientists. We deal in facts, and viewers can judge for themselves. https://t.co/TprMnaHSZL
On Feb 2 2020, on a private conference call with Fauci and Peter Daszak, a scientist noted that the virus has signs of lab modification. Daszak ran EcoHealth Alliance which was used to fund gain-of-function research in Wuhan. A few days after this call, to cover his @ss, he rounded up 100 virologists to sign a letter published by the Lancet calling the lab hypothesis theory "misinformation" and a "conspiracy theory" and that the virus showed no signs of coming from a lab.
We are public health scientists who have closely followed the emergence of 2019 novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) and are deeply concerned about its impact on global health and wellbeing. We have watched as the scientists,...
Because it was started by Trump. He knew before everyone that catching COVID was a two-week illness, and therefore would be entire extinct on planet in two-weeks. President IQ45 failed to understand how a virus works. When COVID lasted longer than Trump's promised two-weeks it became a conspiracy theory. Trump immediately pointed the finger at China.
The question is: How did President IQ45 know so much about COVID before the scientific community was aware? He was bigly losing his trade war with China. The U.S Army was experimenting with COVID samples (obtained from the Wuhan lab) to develop vaccines for troops. An classified intel briefing with the U.S. Army's COVID team is likely where Trump got his information. Anyway, he knew far too much about COVID when it was "accidentally" release in China.
Trump made a statement on the lab origin theory that, for him, was bizarre. Trump usually loves to talk about anything, but check out his response to this question.
It was so odd I saved the video and commented on it back in 2021 on this board. You can hear it starting at 35 seconds into this video.
Reporter: What gives you a high degree of confidence that this originated from the Wuhan Institute of Virology?
Trump: I can't tell you that... I'm not allowed to tell you that.
This was delivered almost as one sentence and Trump abruptly turned away to discourage any followup.
Why would Trump give such an un-Trump like response? Why would he say that he WASN'T ALLOWED TO TELL US?
My guess is that Trump knew it was from WIV because we had an informer in the institute who told us. Trump couldn't say that because it would blow the spy's cover.
What I find funny is that China had a compelling interest for this to have been a natural virus. If there was a natural reservoir from which this virus came, they would have found it by now. Also, when zoonotic spillover occurs with a virus, it happens numerous times as it spills over from the reservoir into different individual humans at different times. That didn't happen here.
MSM disciples... I'm sorry, no matter how much it hurts, this thing came from a lab.
What I find funny is that China had a compelling interest for this to have been a natural virus. If there was a natural reservoir from which this virus came, they would have found it by now. Also, when zoonotic spillover occurs with a virus, it happens numerous times as it spills over from the reservoir into different individual humans at different times. That didn't happen here.
MSM disciples... I'm sorry, no matter how much it hurts, this thing came from a lab.
Interestingly the Chinese also deny the wet market theory, hence the wet markets re-opened with no new regulations. Their official position is that it came from a frozen salmon imported from Norway or something.
On Feb 2 2020, on a private conference call with Fauci and Peter Daszak, a scientist noted that the virus has signs of lab modification. Daszak ran EcoHealth Alliance which was used to fund gain-of-function research in Wuhan. A few days after this call, to cover his @ss, he rounded up 100 virologists to sign a letter published by the Lancet calling the lab hypothesis theory "misinformation" and a "conspiracy theory" and that the virus showed no signs of coming from a lab.
There is a huge difference between the "lab leak" theory - and the virus being "created in a lab." It's really best not to conflate these two. WIV had hundreds of natural coronaviruses sampled from the environment.
What I find funny is that China had a compelling interest for this to have been a natural virus. If there was a natural reservoir from which this virus came, they would have found it by now. Also, when zoonotic spillover occurs with a virus, it happens numerous times as it spills over from the reservoir into different individual humans at different times. That didn't happen here.
MSM disciples... I'm sorry, no matter how much it hurts, this thing came from a lab.
These assertions you make are kinda odd and flat out wrong. Especially about coronaviruses and their weird natural hosts. Seems like you are mis-repeating something you read like a bad game of telephone.
What I find funny is that China had a compelling interest for this to have been a natural virus. If there was a natural reservoir from which this virus came, they would have found it by now. Also, when zoonotic spillover occurs with a virus, it happens numerous times as it spills over from the reservoir into different individual humans at different times. That didn't happen here.
MSM disciples... I'm sorry, no matter how much it hurts, this thing came from a lab.
These assertions you make are kinda odd and flat out wrong. Especially about coronaviruses and their weird natural hosts. Seems like you are mis-repeating something you read like a bad game of telephone.
Did CNN tell you what you just wrote? Too cute. Teacher said this, Rachel Maddow said that. What a good parrot you are.
On Feb 2 2020, on a private conference call with Fauci and Peter Daszak, a scientist noted that the virus has signs of lab modification. Daszak ran EcoHealth Alliance which was used to fund gain-of-function research in Wuhan. A few days after this call, to cover his @ss, he rounded up 100 virologists to sign a letter published by the Lancet calling the lab hypothesis theory "misinformation" and a "conspiracy theory" and that the virus showed no signs of coming from a lab.
There is a huge difference between the "lab leak" theory - and the virus being "created in a lab." It's really best not to conflate these two. WIV had hundreds of natural coronaviruses sampled from the environment.
These were intentionally conflated by the media. But regardless it is plausible it was modified in the lab, and I don't even think it matters whether it was modified or they just happen to have natural coronaviruses that are extremely well adapted to human transmission stored in the lab.
These assertions you make are kinda odd and flat out wrong. Especially about coronaviruses and their weird natural hosts. Seems like you are mis-repeating something you read like a bad game of telephone.
Did CNN tell you what you just wrote? Too cute. Teacher said this, Rachel Maddow said that. What a good parrot you are.
Just want a source for the statement: "Also, when zoonotic spillover occurs with a virus, it happens numerous times as it spills over from the reservoir into different individual humans at different times." That's likely provably false, but I am too lazy to do that, so I'll put the burden of proof on the one making the absurd claim.
Bats harbour a multitude of coronaviruses and owing to their diversity and wide distribution are prime reservoir hosts of emerging viruses. Ruiz-Aravena, McKee and colleagues analyse the currently available information on bat...
Because it was started by Trump. He knew before everyone that catching COVID was a two-week illness, and therefore would be entire extinct on planet in two-weeks. President IQ45 failed to understand how a virus works. When COVID lasted longer than Trump's promised two-weeks it became a conspiracy theory. Trump immediately pointed the finger at China.
The question is: How did President IQ45 know so much about COVID before the scientific community was aware? He was bigly losing his trade war with China. The U.S Army was experimenting with COVID samples (obtained from the Wuhan lab) to develop vaccines for troops. An classified intel briefing with the U.S. Army's COVID team is likely where Trump got his information. Anyway, he knew far too much about COVID when it was "accidentally" release in China.
Trump made a statement on the lab origin theory that, for him, was bizarre. Trump usually loves to talk about anything, but check out his response to this question.
It was so odd I saved the video and commented on it back in 2021 on this board. You can hear it starting at 35 seconds into this video.
Reporter: What gives you a high degree of confidence that this originated from the Wuhan Institute of Virology?
Trump: I can't tell you that... I'm not allowed to tell you that.
This was delivered almost as one sentence and Trump abruptly turned away to discourage any followup.
Why would Trump give such an un-Trump like response? Why would he say that he WASN'T ALLOWED TO TELL US?
My guess is that Trump knew it was from WIV because we had an informer in the institute who told us. Trump couldn't say that because it would blow the spy's cover.
Or, Trump knew it was the region around WIV because he ordered an special U.S. operative to go to the area and release some COVID that could not be traced back to the U.S. Army. Trump cannot tell you that because it was a covert operation that he ordered.
There is a huge difference between the "lab leak" theory - and the virus being "created in a lab." It's really best not to conflate these two. WIV had hundreds of natural coronaviruses sampled from the environment.
These were intentionally conflated by the media. But regardless it is plausible it was modified in the lab, and I don't even think it matters whether it was modified or they just happen to have natural coronaviruses that are extremely well adapted to human transmission stored in the lab.
Yeah by ill-informed media... which you are repeating.
I think there's a big difference. Cataloguing and understanding what kinds of naturally occurring viruses are capable of making humans sick is crucial, but should be done with high a level of biosafety.
Engineering viruses to understand infectivity and possible viral "space" is harder to defend, and again should be done only with excellent biosafety.
These were intentionally conflated by the media. But regardless it is plausible it was modified in the lab, and I don't even think it matters whether it was modified or they just happen to have natural coronaviruses that are extremely well adapted to human transmission stored in the lab.
Yeah by ill-informed media... which you are repeating.
I think there's a big difference. Cataloguing and understanding what kinds of naturally occurring viruses are capable of making humans sick is crucial, but should be done with high a level of biosafety.
Engineering viruses to understand infectivity and possible viral "space" is harder to defend, and again should be done only with excellent biosafety.
If the medias were intentionally blurring the line between lab engineered and intentionally released vs lab leaked. This is to make the case more convincing that anything deviating from the trumpeted natural origin story is crazy and should be disregarded, and believer of which mocked.
Yeah by ill-informed media... which you are repeating.
I think there's a big difference. Cataloguing and understanding what kinds of naturally occurring viruses are capable of making humans sick is crucial, but should be done with high a level of biosafety.
Engineering viruses to understand infectivity and possible viral "space" is harder to defend, and again should be done only with excellent biosafety.
If the medias were intentionally blurring the line between lab engineered and intentionally released vs lab leaked. This is to make the case more convincing that anything deviating from the trumpeted natural origin story is crazy and should be disregarded, and believer of which mocked.
Nah, most people just dont spend the time to read or understand the difference, both the producers and the consumers of the media. It really wasn't that hard.
