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1 year ago 11/23/2022 12:23pm EST

re: Xxxer

Xxxer wrote:
This will never end because of the 2nd Amendment. IF anyone cares about their fellow humans, the 2nd Amendment needs to be abolished. Hard truth for some of you.

Abolishing the second amendment will do nothing for all the reasons stated by the other posters. The only hard truth/s, which you can't seem to accept is 1)This has nothing to do with the second amendment. 2) Nobody cares about their fellow humans--at least not enough to make real change. Legislating laws will have zero effect---as has already played out. People need to care enough not to kill each other---and they don't, obviously. Until people give a sh!t about each other--at least enough not to kill one another nothing will change. This is a hard truth you're going to have to accept. This is part of American culture--has been for at least 40 years. Think Mcdonalds in San Diego in the early eighties. Just accept the hard truth--this is America now.

1 year ago 11/23/2022 12:24pm EST

re: Stop with the melodramatics...

Stop with the melodramatics... wrote:
Xxxer wrote:
This will never end because of the 2nd Amendment. IF anyone cares about their fellow humans, the 2nd Amendment needs to be abolished. Hard truth for some of you.
Abolishing the second amendment will do nothing for all the reasons stated by the other posters. The only hard truth/s, which you can't seem to accept is 1)This has nothing to do with the second amendment. 2) Nobody cares about their fellow humans--at least not enough to make real change. Legislating laws will have zero effect---as has already played out. People need to care enough not to kill each other---and they don't, obviously. Until people give a sh!t about each other--at least enough not to kill one another nothing will change. This is a hard truth you're going to have to accept. This is part of American culture--has been for at least 40 years. Think Mcdonalds in San Diego in the early eighties. Just accept the hard truth--this is America now.

It has everything to do with the 2nd Amendment. No other Western country has an equivalent.

1 year ago 11/23/2022 12:29pm EST

re: Armstronglivs

Wrong, people caring enough to not kill each other has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment.

1 year ago 11/23/2022 12:46pm EST

re: nothing will change

nothing will change wrote:
america la la land wrote:
It's not a human right to own a gun you dumb ass. No other countries have this.
Human rights are rights are standards that recognize and protect the dignity of all human beings. Guns are the antithesis of this. The vast majority of guns have been designed and made with one purpose, to kill human beings. Hand guns, automatic weapons, etc. are made to kill humans. That people want the "right" to own an object whose sole purpose is to kill humans is remarkable. The lies and disconnect needed to deeply entrench this belief into people, needing to believe that owning guns is a good thing, well, this is why people can believe that school mass shootings are a hoax - because that's what they desperately want to believe. It fits in with all the other lies they already believe.
In any event, I do not see any end to Americans killing Americans on American soil while gun manufacturers continue to make a whole lot of money. Too many people would need the ability to admit too many truths about themselves, and that's not going to happen. Talk about worshiping false idols, gun worship is out of control and it's not going away, no matter how many people get killed in the America by Americans. I mean, if someone hated Americans, they would give them the 2nd Amendment and laugh themselves to sleep every night.

Are you going to also outlaw cops and military having guns, or is it just ordinary civilians who shouldn't be allowed to protect themselves?

1 year ago 11/23/2022 12:48pm EST

re: Armstronglivs

Armstronglivs wrote:
How many in Chicago? wrote:
Some cities with the most gun control (e.g. Chicago) have the most mass shootings. In fact, Chicago has already had 42 this year.
It's a culture problem. It's a problem when people feel like resorting to violence over a "diss" or disagreement.
It's also an access problem. Firearms are easily obtained. In those countries where access is more restricted there are fewer gun homicides.

Like cities such as Chicago, Philadelphia, New York City and Baltimore, right?

1 year ago 11/23/2022 12:49pm EST

re: Armstronglivs

Armstronglivs wrote:
Stop with the melodramatics... wrote:
Abolishing the second amendment will do nothing for all the reasons stated by the other posters. The only hard truth/s, which you can't seem to accept is 1)This has nothing to do with the second amendment. 2) Nobody cares about their fellow humans--at least not enough to make real change. Legislating laws will have zero effect---as has already played out. People need to care enough not to kill each other---and they don't, obviously. Until people give a sh!t about each other--at least enough not to kill one another nothing will change. This is a hard truth you're going to have to accept. This is part of American culture--has been for at least 40 years. Think Mcdonalds in San Diego in the early eighties. Just accept the hard truth--this is America now.
It has everything to do with the 2nd Amendment. No other Western country has an equivalent.

It’s so boring seeing you and your ilk coming on and saying “no other country blah blah blah.”

The US isn’t like every other country and I’m grateful for it. Some people like to be sheep (you and people like you in New Zealand and Canada and all these other “free” places) and some like to make their own way.

Seeing as how our freedom based culture has saved the world time and again I would expect a little less intrusion from you lot.

1 year ago 11/23/2022 12:51pm EST

re: Stop with the melodramatics...

Stop with the melodramatics... wrote:
Wrong, people caring enough to not kill each other has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment.

The availability of guns and the fact they outnumber the population has everything to do with the 2nd Amendment.

1 year ago 11/23/2022 12:55pm EST

re: Let it Rupp

Let it Rupp wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
It's also an access problem. Firearms are easily obtained. In those countries where access is more restricted there are fewer gun homicides.
Like cities such as Chicago, Philadelphia, New York City and Baltimore, right?

No. Access to firearms - especially military-style weapons - is more restricted in other Western countries. Firearms aren't part of their culture like guns are in the US. Hence you have way more gun homicides.

1 year ago 11/23/2022 12:56pm EST

re: Yawn^31

Yawn^31 wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
It has everything to do with the 2nd Amendment. No other Western country has an equivalent.
It’s so boring seeing you and your ilk coming on and saying “no other country blah blah blah.”
The US isn’t like every other country and I’m grateful for it. Some people like to be sheep (you and people like you in New Zealand and Canada and all these other “free” places) and some like to make their own way.
Seeing as how our freedom based culture has saved the world time and again I would expect a little less intrusion from you lot.

Freedom is great when it gives you the freedom to kill each other like your gun laws do.

1 year ago 11/23/2022 1:04pm EST

re: Armstronglivs

Armstronglivs wrote:
Stop with the melodramatics... wrote:
Wrong, people caring enough to not kill each other has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment.
The availability of guns and the fact they outnumber the population has everything to do with the 2nd Amendment.

Sure the quantity of guns in this country maybe. Abolishing the 2nd amendment doesn't make those guns disappear. Hypothetically speaking, lets say we abolish the 2nd amendment today. Do you think mass shootings will just stop? No they won't even slow down. I personally don't own a gun, but if I wanted to I could obtain a gun legally/illegally--so what. Constitutional amendments aren't going to stop me. Again not an amendment problem.

1 year ago 11/23/2022 1:06pm EST

re: Armstronglivs

Armstronglivs wrote:
Let it Rupp wrote:
Like cities such as Chicago, Philadelphia, New York City and Baltimore, right?
No. Access to firearms - especially military-style weapons - is more restricted in other Western countries. Firearms aren't part of their culture like guns are in the US. Hence you have way more gun homicides.

en.wikipedia.org

Firearms regulation in Switzerland

Firearms regulation in Switzerland allows the acquisition of semi-automatic, and – with a may-issue permit – fully automatic firearms, by Swiss citizens and foreigners with or without permanent residence. The laws pertaining...

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1 year ago 11/23/2022 2:26pm EST

re: gamerGatr

gamerGatr wrote:
basiclogix wrote:
They say the sane things about drugs, yet they are still being smuggled around. Revoking the 2nd amendment is only going to take guns away from law-abiding citizens. True criminals who commit crimes are still going to get their hands on a gun illegally.
Are you automated? What is your solution?

The solution is more "good guys with guns." If law-abiding Walmart employees had been properly armed, this store manager would have thought twice before firing his shots.

That's what NRA has told us many times over.

1 year ago 11/23/2022 2:30pm EST

re: Just Another Hobby Jogger

The solution is to have everyone that works at Walmart with an AR-15 at all times. Also everytime someone opens the door of the break room, one employee must always be pointing their AR-15 to the door. The only thing that stops a bad guy with an AR-15 is a good guy with an AR-15.

1 year ago 11/23/2022 2:36pm EST

re: stan the corgi

stan the corgi wrote:
It's because of Black Friday, ban Black Friday. Seriously, does a SANE person do this? I don't think so. Better mental health detection and resources and more thorough background checks needed, also make semi auto guns illegal.

The problem with your argument is it is like if we said it is fine that North Korea has nuclear weapons that could destroy the US. The issue is we need to get better mental health resources for Kim Jong-un. Of course Iran should have nuclear weapons as long as we can get some mental health treatment for their leaders. This argument show how preposterous and disingenuous (the only alternative is you people are really stupid) this “solution” is.

1 year ago 11/23/2022 2:39pm EST

re: How many in Chicago?

actually it’s a culture around guns problem

1 year ago 11/23/2022 2:41pm EST

re: Xxxer

1 year ago 11/23/2022 2:46pm EST

re: Armstronglivs

Armstronglivs wrote:
Let it Rupp wrote:
Like cities such as Chicago, Philadelphia, New York City and Baltimore, right?
No. Access to firearms - especially military-style weapons - is more restricted in other Western countries. Firearms aren't part of their culture like guns are in the US. Hence you have way more gun homicides.

Handguns are used in the overwhelming majority of gun homicides including last night's shooting.

Banning "military-style weapons" whatever the hell that means won't do anything.

1 year ago 11/23/2022 2:47pm EST

re: Armstronglivs

Armstronglivs wrote:
Yawn^31 wrote:
It’s so boring seeing you and your ilk coming on and saying “no other country blah blah blah.”
The US isn’t like every other country and I’m grateful for it. Some people like to be sheep (you and people like you in New Zealand and Canada and all these other “free” places) and some like to make their own way.
Seeing as how our freedom based culture has saved the world time and again I would expect a little less intrusion from you lot.
Freedom is great when it gives you the freedom to kill each other like your gun laws do.

Murder is already illegal...

If someone is willing to ignore the law against murder they might be willing to ignore the law that says they can't have a gun.

1 year ago 11/23/2022 2:51pm EST

re: TheAdultInTheRoom

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Freedom is great when it gives you the freedom to kill each other like your gun laws do.
Murder is already illegal...
If someone is willing to ignore the law against murder they might be willing to ignore the law that says they can't have a gun.

You are correct as usual. We should legalize murder for sure because if someone is willing to ignore the law that says they can’t have a gun then they might be willing to ignore the law against murder.

1 year ago 11/23/2022 2:57pm EST

re: TheAdultInTheRoom

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
No. Access to firearms - especially military-style weapons - is more restricted in other Western countries. Firearms aren't part of their culture like guns are in the US. Hence you have way more gun homicides.
Handguns are used in the overwhelming majority of gun homicides including last night's shooting.
Banning "military-style weapons" whatever the hell that means won't do anything.

Funny how these people want to take our rights away without even being able define the item they wish to take.

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