I knew he used PEDs in his career. Wasn't he coached by Mo Farah's favorite coach uncle Jama? Amos has always been suspicious and really inconsistent, probably from being on and off the sauce.
I can't believe that you guys are all just piling on like this. Look, the facts might not be in his favor, but I choose to believe he's innocent.
I'll be writing an 8,000 word blog that questions the science and legality of this case despite lacking the credentials to speak with any authority on the matter. You may quote me liberally.
Yes, unfortunately only Africans are likely financially desperate enough to take a drug that causes a rapid proliferation of cancerous tumors in mice. But that wouldn't concern you would it? When Amos is lying in agony in a hospital bed in 10 years with multiple cancers ravaging his body, you'll still be beating to his 2012 run and telling yourself it was worth it and that I'm a racist.
You just wrote that "thousands or even millions of amateur body builders, and no doubt countless professional sports people" use GW1516, but minutes later you say that only Africans are likely financially desperate enough to take that drug?
Poor you, getting called racist for no reason at all!
I believe Kiprop said that he only tested positive because they didn't warn him before coming to test, not because he was new to doping.
Maybe you are confusing Kiprop with someone else?
Kiprop had multiple advance warnings as much as six days in advance. He was in constant contact with the Doping Control Officer from 21 Nov. to 26 Nov., attempting to schedule a time for the test that best suits Kiprop, before the test on 27 Nov. This was confirmed by screenshots of text messages, by the AIU, and a signed statement from the DCO who took the samples.
To all those who doubt whether athletes and coaches have ever heard of drugs before (by there clinical name), here we have a former Olympic trialist and founder of a running website that encourages open discussion of doping saying he had never heard of a drug that has been discussed on his site for more than a decade...
Maybe it's not so unusual that those involved in high-performance running has not heard of every drug.
I can't believe that you guys are all just piling on like this. Look, the facts might not be in his favor, but I choose to believe he's innocent.
I'll be writing an 8,000 word blog that questions the science and legality of this case despite lacking the credentials to speak with any authority on the matter. You may quote me liberally.
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Wow that sounds great!! I will quote you liberally, and set up a fund for his legal fees.
I believe Kiprop said that he only tested positive because they didn't warn him before coming to test, not because he was new to doping.
Maybe you are confusing Kiprop with someone else?
Kiprop had multiple advance warnings as much as six days in advance. He was in constant contact with the Doping Control Officer from 21 Nov. to 26 Nov., attempting to schedule a time for the test that best suits Kiprop, before the test on 27 Nov. This was confirmed by screenshots of text messages, by the AIU, and a signed statement from the DCO who took the samples.
I’d reckon 6 days usually isn’t enough to get substances out of your system.
To all those who doubt whether athletes and coaches have ever heard of drugs before (by there clinical name), here we have a former Olympic trialist and founder of a running website that encourages open discussion of doping saying he had never heard of a drug that has been discussed on his site for more than a decade...
Maybe it's not so unusual that those involved in high-performance running has not heard of every drug.
Kiprop had multiple advance warnings as much as six days in advance. He was in constant contact with the Doping Control Officer from 21 Nov. to 26 Nov., attempting to schedule a time for the test that best suits Kiprop, before the test on 27 Nov. This was confirmed by screenshots of text messages, by the AIU, and a signed statement from the DCO who took the samples.
I’d reckon 6 days usually isn’t enough to get substances out of your system.
You'd reckon so? Recall we are not talking about long term ABP observations, but presence detected in urine. Ferrari perfected the technique of injecting EPO that would clear overnight -- the window of detection, in urine, is so short it would be undetectable the next morning. Surely Kiprop didn't make this rookie mistake.
To all those who doubt whether athletes and coaches have ever heard of drugs before (by there clinical name), here we have a former Olympic trialist and founder of a running website that encourages open discussion of doping saying he had never heard of a drug that has been discussed on his site for more than a decade...
Maybe it's not so unusual that those involved in high-performance running has not heard of every drug.
No its just that Wejo isn't the sharpest knife.
Maybe, maybe not, but that is still not so unusual.
Yes, unfortunately only Africans are likely financially desperate enough to take a drug that causes a rapid proliferation of cancerous tumors in mice. But that wouldn't concern you would it? When Amos is lying in agony in a hospital bed in 10 years with multiple cancers ravaging his body, you'll still be beating to his 2012 run and telling yourself it was worth it and that I'm a racist.
You just wrote that "thousands or even millions of amateur body builders, and no doubt countless professional sports people" use GW1516, but minutes later you say that only Africans are likely financially desperate enough to take that drug?
Poor you, getting called racist for no reason at all!
Poor you for being so dumb. Yes, amateur gym joes who are bit dim, who don't get tested, are not even competing against anybody, and who believe the forum posts from shills telling them that the cancer dangers are overstated.
The risk/reward ratio for the average Kenyan elite and the average Western elite is near incomparable.
I was always hoping to see him get the WR and be the first sub 1:40. I guess it seemed possible in 2012. Sad to see. I guess we won't be making plans for Nigel.
We're only making plans, for Nigel. We only want what's best for him. We're only making plans, for Nigel. Nigel just needs that helping hand.
Maybe, maybe not, but that is still not so unusual.
Let me assure you that it requires a lot more knowledge about physiology and a lot more intelligence being a top coach than setting up a discussion forum.
That sucks :( puts a bad light on the amazing race he had in 2012 and his 1:41 7 years later in 2019. I see some people saying he probably wasn't doping until recently because he was falling off. What are the chances that's true vs him having doped for years?
He got caught by a test, didn't he? And he joined OTC relatively late in his career. No way he could know about this PED by himself, OTC has to be involved somehow.