COLE MF HOCKER!!!!!!

AP5000 wrote:

How can you possibly say he's in 332 shape when he just ran 335 in the most important race of his life, and he's never run 332 before?

1. He won.

2. Engles ran 3:33 earlier this season and Hocker just beat him by 1.4 seconds.

3. He closed in 38.64 with his last 100 at 12.2

4. He seems in better shape than when he ran 3:50 for the mile.

5. If there was a paced race, strung out with guys running 3:30-3:33, I don’t think you, or hardly anyone, would bet significant money against him running 3:32 unless you got favorable odds.

c7runner7 wrote:

AP5000 wrote:

How can you possibly say he's in 332 shape when he just ran 335 in the most important race of his life, and he's never run 332 before?

1. He won.

2. Engles ran 3:33 earlier this season and Hocker just beat him by 1.4 seconds.

3. He closed in 38.64 with his last 100 at 12.2

4. He seems in better shape than when he ran 3:50 for the mile.

5. If there was a paced race, strung out with guys running 3:30-3:33, I don’t think you, or hardly anyone, would bet significant money against him running 3:32 unless you got favorable odds.

Cheruiyot and Ingebrigtsen are running Monaco in July. I'm certain the US champ can get a spot in that meet. There's his chance to see how fast he really is and compete against the very best

AP5000 wrote:

I think he is faster than 335 but not 3 seconds faster. It's a big difference that people throw around like 3 seconds is easy. It can take a long time to drop 3 seconds in the 1500.

He's been around 3:32 shape for a while. A 3:50 indoor mile many months ago when he was in lesser fitness indicates that.

How is him winning in 335 indicative of him running 332? Like that's a really strange first bullet.

Exactly! With the right pacing Hocker would have a chance to break 3:30 and could easily go under 332. He's been focused on winning points for his college team. Just look at the doubles he's put together. Dude is a legend

But it doesn't matter cuz all that matter is in 95% of Olympic races is the closing kick

For some reason the idiots on this site can't get it through their heads that more than 95% of Olympic races are slow and tactical and it always comes down to the closing kick. Cole Hocker has one of the best kicks in the world right now , I put even money on him winning a medal

You say he's been in 332 shape but then he never comes close to it. That's an absurd argument to make.

c7runner7 wrote:

AP5000 wrote:

How can you possibly say he's in 332 shape when he just ran 335 in the most important race of his life, and he's never run 332 before?

1. He won.

2. Engles ran 3:33 earlier this season and Hocker just beat him by 1.4 seconds.

3. He closed in 38.64 with his last 100 at 12.2

4. He seems in better shape than when he ran 3:50 for the mile.

5. If there was a paced race, strung out with guys running 3:30-3:33, I don’t think you, or hardly anyone, would bet significant money against him running 3:32 unless you got favorable odds.

I would he hasnt broken 3:35 and you think he can knock 3 seconds like that just because it was tactical

AP5000 wrote:

Which Olympics aren't high profile? Also there like dozens of guys who can run 330.

The Olympics are high profile, indeed. Specifically, Seoul attracted loads of attention on two sprinters, Flo Jo and Ben Johnson. (Yes, Barcelona, Atlanta, Sydney, Athens, Beijing, London and Rio each profiled high-performing people, as did Los Angeles that preceded Seoul and Moscow that preceded LA and a whole list of four-year-interval meets in succession).

These 24+ ("dozens") guys who can run 3:30... who are they?

This Olympics 1500 final will not be tactical. Not with Jakob in it who can run 328.

AP5000 wrote:

You say he's been in 332 shape but then he never comes close to it. That's an absurd argument to make.

An indoor 3:50 is close to an outdoor 3:32 in good conditions. And now he's in better shape. I guess you're trolling, though

truthman432 wrote:

Keep dreaming.

This is the peak of his entire athletic career. I personally can’t wait for him to A: not make the team, B: not get out of the heats or C: get stomped in the final by considerably better runners

Wow. You seem pretty invested in Cole’s not succeeding, must be fun to be you

Phil Ken Sebben wrote:

Who is going to push the pace with Cheruiyot out?

Some Kenyan who wants to medal.

calm down pls wrote:

AP5000 wrote:

You say he's been in 332 shape but then he never comes close to it. That's an absurd argument to make.

An indoor 3:50 is close to an outdoor 3:32 in good conditions. And now he's in better shape. I guess you're trolling, though

Tell me why it is 1 Cooper Teare won that race and outdoors beat cole in coopers quickest 1500 race and didnt run the standard so Cooper is already ahead of Cole time trial race wise and then you think he can knock off 3 seconds like its a cake walk

wow interesting wrote:

Wow. You seem pretty invested in Cole’s not succeeding, must be fun to be you

I am simply being realistic.

People are inflating shush man’s ego a bit too much

57.0

57.5

57.5

40.9

3:32.9

There are 118 people who have run 331 or faster according to the world athletics list.

also you have to pretty pretty old to consider the Seoul Olympics high profile.

AP5000 wrote:

This Olympics 1500 final will not be tactical. Not with Jakob in it who can run 328.

Three El Guerrouj-era Olympic finals (3:35, 3:32 and 3:34) were tactical and he could run 3:26. The gold medalists could run the equivalent of 3:28 or faster, but didn't. One reason the Olympic record stands at 3:32.07 (by a 3:43 miler).

You think I'm trolling when I'm using real data to your made up data? A conversion is made up data. It's why he had to kill himself today just to run 335 and barely win and you think he can miraculously drop 3 seconds and for some reason just hasn't bothered to do.it.

421 men have run the 1500 faster than Hocker. Let's ease up on how incredible he is talk.