Brazier who? Max Burgin 1:44.17

Spade Detector just bitter that an 18 year old British kid runs 1:44.1 at the same meet Cheptegei finishes 13 seconds outside the WR.

Coevett wrote:

Lol, you're claiming that 1:43.5 is close to 1:43.9, yet Max running 'only 1:44.1 in his first race of the season, at a younger age, in cool conditions, with all the Covid disruptions, and with less competition to push him, AND from the outside lane, means he isn't even in the same discussion as Brazier talent wise.

Another lie - I've said no such thing regarding Burgin. He had a good run.

Coevett wrote:

Not to mention that Brazier went backwards for 3 years until he teamed up with a coach that a British athlete would be sanctioned for associating with.

Another lie. YOU criticized Brazier's association with Julian until a British athlete actually did start running with him - where's the sanction on Grice?

You are incapable of refraining from lying. Your word is mud.

Coevett wrote:

Lol, you're claiming that 1:43.5 is close to 1:43.9, yet Max running 'only 1:44.1 in his first race of the season, at a younger age, in cool conditions, with all the Covid disruptions, and with less competition to push him, AND from the outside lane, means he isn't even in the same discussion as Brazier talent wise.

Not to mention that Brazier went backwards for 3 years until he teamed up with a coach that a British athlete would be sanctioned for associating with.

You're congenital imbeciles and doping apologists.

There have been many idiots on this board over the years - a lot of juvenilia, a lot of racism, a lot of hard right stupidity, a lot of "characters" like jamin and Flagpole Willy - but you could well be the most cringey of them all. Ask yourself what is wrong with your psyche that you have this deranged attraction to accomplished white northern European male distance runners in their late teens and sort yourself out.

longjack wrote:

timewaste of the day.

18 year old guy returns from injury, runs 144 early season.

comments

he'll choke soon

there is one other guy on the planet did that done that.

he beat 142 guys, but they're no good now.

me

i enjoy guys running well. makes me feel good. like mate, good job.

haters need to go to hell.

It's always the way in LetsRun. One of the best performances by an athlete that age for years and it quickly turns into a 'he isn't as good as the other supernatural talent x', with both sides then disparaging the other's favorite athlete.

We've hopefully got many years ahead of us of great races between Brazier and Burgin, so we'll find out eventually who is/was the greatest talent.

abde wrote:

Burgin is here wrote:

Geezus. Please. As if there are not non-stop posts about certain young "prodigies" about to break the WR.

Burgin is 18, Brazier was 19 when running 1:43. This is Burgin's first race of the year in not ideal conditions. He'll run 1:43 flat this year for sure. This beating of a great field just gave him loads of confidence.

He is 19. The same as Brazier was when he ran 1:43 in old spikes.

It's a good time. I need to be convinced that he won't continue to wilt when running in a pack or in big races, though.

Please don't even bother bringing spikes into this convo. There's zero statistical evidence that the Air Zoom Victory makes a significant difference, and a lot of elite 800 guys are still using the Mamba or other traditional spikes.

Burgin's had far more advanced coaching than Brazier did until college, which accounts for the earlier development. In fact, Brazier negative split that 1:47.55 by a lot, indicating far greater ability at 18. But the question is not which ran faster at 19 (Burgin was a day before his 19th birthday) but which is the gold medal favorite and that's absolutely Brazier to repeat. Amos and Hoppel are next. Thus far, Korir's not at his old level. Of course, if Burgin can handle rounds and run low 1:43, he will be a medal contender but who's to say that he'll improve throughout the season. If I recall correctly, he's hit his best times early most seasons.

Coevett wrote:

Spade Detector just bitter that an 18 year old British kid runs 1:44.1 at the same meet Cheptegei finishes 13 seconds outside the WR.

In case there was any doubt about the ethno-supremacy, he cleared it up for us

ienjoyracing wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Spade Detector just bitter that an 18 year old British kid runs 1:44.1 at the same meet Cheptegei finishes 13 seconds outside the WR.

In case there was any doubt about the ethno-supremacy, he cleared it up for us

OK, I'll say it. The reason why you weirdos are bitterly insisting that Brazier has to be an intrinsically better talent than Max Burgin, is because the latter doesn't have enough black in him.

I think outside of this weird bubble of African fetishization and doping apologism, there are a lot of real athletics fans very excited about Jakob Ingebrigsten and Max Burgin. Obviously they are the wrong color for most of you race obsessed white suburban freaks, but you'll just have to suck it up and put Youtube videos of Komen and Ngeny, on auto repeat, because sorry to say, those heady Epiopian days are over. Ask yourself why so many of you creeps feel the need to denigrate the most exciting talents to come out of non-Africa for decades, and why the mods allow it.

Coevett wrote:

ienjoyracing wrote:

In case there was any doubt about the ethno-supremacy, he cleared it up for us

OK, I'll say it. The reason why you weirdos are bitterly insisting that Brazier has to be an intrinsically better talent than Max Burgin, is because the latter doesn't have enough black in him.

The reason Brazier has been discussed is because the OP literally named him and took shots at him. That’s why people clapped back.

The reason Cheptegei was brought up is because you were butthurt about being caught lying, as always, and wanted to make it racial. He had nothing to do with the discussion.

Don’t conflate the two.

Coevett wrote:

I think outside of this weird bubble of African fetishization and doping apologism, there are a lot of real athletics fans very excited about Jakob Ingebrigsten and Max Burgin. Obviously they are the wrong color for most of you race obsessed white suburban freaks, but you'll just have to suck it up and put Youtube videos of Komen and Ngeny, on auto repeat, because sorry to say, those heady Epiopian days are over. Ask yourself why so many of you creeps feel the need to denigrate the most exciting talents to come out of non-Africa for decades, and why the mods allow it.

lmao no one is denigrating Burgin or Ingebrigtsen, they're great runners and much appreciated by almost all on here. You on the other hand are a total clown.

If your behaviour is actually a long running bit then well done, you impersonated a weird embittered British middle aged bigot well, had me going. If not: what the hell are you on about? Sure, the days of east Africans being a significant presence in distance running are over, course they are, hardly any good runners from Kenya or Ethiopia or Uganda anymore are there?

migroc wrote:

The semifinals the 800 are going to be crazy- so many good runners with only the top 2 guaranteed advancing.

I love it!!

True.

One of the most difficult events to make the finals in.

3q5ayh wrote:

migroc wrote:

The semifinals the 800 are going to be crazy- so many good runners with only the top 2 guaranteed advancing.

I love it!!

True.

One of the most difficult events to make the finals in.

+1

Jakob is my favorite young runner, alongside Warholm. But I can’t stand the British runners and hope the Americans, Africans, and other Europeans leave them all in the dust.

I was impressed at how controlled he looked.

1:43 this year for certain, 1:42 next year if he improves at the rate he has so far.

ex-runner wrote:

I was impressed at how controlled he looked.

1:43 this year for certain, 1:42 next year if he improves at the rate he has so far.

It's very exciting that the UK might have two 1:43 guys in the form of Giles and Burgin this year. Maybe even 1:42 guys soon.

UK middle distance running is reaching a second peak

Burgin is a very good young runner. No need to cut down other great runners. Things will be settled on the track. The 800m is highly competitive and we haven't seen who will emerge from Kenya this season. I wish Burgin the best. He is young and has a high ceiling in the sport.

abde wrote:

1:44? That's cute. Good enough to hype him up before choking again.

Joke’s on you - he followed it up with a brilliant run in Hengelo today...

strosn wrote:

abde wrote:

1:44? That's cute. Good enough to hype him up before choking again.

Joke’s on you - he followed it up with a brilliant run in Hengelo today...

Bro you trippin'? Burgin wasn't in the race today.