Parler, free speech website, taken down from the web

The Unkle wrote:

Just joined this a few days ago a it is an alternative to Facebook as it does not censor comments.

Tried to get on this AM.

It's gone.

We are full on 1984 now

ruh roh, cretins...

"The hacker set up a crowdsourcing system where multiple people could help download the content. The downloaded data is now being processed before being uploaded to the Internet Archive, where anyone will be able to view or download it — including the open-source intelligence community and law enforcement agencies.

And the possibility of everything coming out has scared some Trump supporters.

"Bad news. Left extremists have captured and archived over 70TB of data from Parler servers. This includes posts, personal information, locations, videos, images, etc,” a Telegram account called North Central Florida Patriots said on Monday morning.

The intent is a mass dox and a list to hold patriots ‘accountable’. It is too late to scrub your data, and it’s already archived. There is nothing you can do to prevent what’s already happened. All you can do is prepare for the fallout. Accountability may come in many forms for our free speech, doxing, jobs might be called, addresses leaked and people coming to your house, etc.”

If this is true, WOW!

The thought also crossed my mind that now would be a perfect time for the FBI to create a new right wing site like Parler to create a database of potential domestic terrorists. It would be the perfect data honeypot.

No. The fact that I can do 35 dead-hang pull-ups in 3 minutes is what impresses the ladies. I'm more multi-dimensional than someone who only runs.

casual observations wrote:

Typical small man response. I’m so impressed by your IQ. I bet that wows the ladies

The Unkle wrote:

Just joined this a few days ago a it is an alternative to Facebook as it does not censor comments.

Tried to get on this AM.

It's gone.

We are full on 1984 now

Why should Amazon Web Services, Google, and Apple -- all of which are private companies -- be required to promote Parler's business? This isn't an example of government censorship, it is a case of businesses not wanting to be associated with another entity that does business in a way they find objectionable (not moderating to remove calls for violent conduct).

You do realize there have been far more deaths, injuries, etc. in far left rallies this past year? Are you in favor of something similar for the left? The truth is, they analyze both sides. People are free to say what they want, and businesses are free to react as they see fit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUs4AOjZu3I

lolololol

Just host it yourself.

Why were they on AWS anyway. Dumbos.

SeattleSilver wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

Just joined this a few days ago a it is an alternative to Facebook as it does not censor comments.

Tried to get on this AM.

It's gone.

We are full on 1984 now

Why should Amazon Web Services, Google, and Apple -- all of which are private companies -- be required to promote Parler's business?

For the same reason that comcast is not allowed to cut the internet off from people who they don't agree with. These are platforms that want to be treated like publishers. For what its worth, I don't care that they are silencing conservatives, it makes room for a new player in the game that is not part of the far left tech monopoly. Gab is growing fast.

well actually wrote:

For the same reason that comcast is not allowed to cut the internet off from people who they don't agree with. These are platforms that want to be treated like publishers.

These people broke the user agreement multiple times. It is like being banned from LRC enough times that they tire of you and ban you permanently.

josiahi l Williams wrote:

To sum it up:

The Left approves of this because hurts the other team.

The Right disapproves of it because it hurts their team.

Yes, however it's a big hurt here.

If we take the analogy of sport here, here is the equivalent of getting suspended of most important race indefinitely.

well actually wrote:

For the same reason that comcast is not allowed to cut the internet off from people who they don't agree with. These are platforms that want to be treated like publishers. For what its worth, I don't care that they are silencing conservatives, it makes room for a new player in the game that is not part of the far left tech monopoly. Gab is growing fast.

Public regulation of utilities make sense. There is lots of overhead in running wires, etc, which can make competition hard to come by.

There is effectively 0 overhead to starting a social media platform. Completely different.

Also you don't understand section 230 if you say things like "platforms treated like publishers."

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

The Parler-inclined will find a new home soon enough, and ironically it will be hosted in a country they'd kill you for mentioning.

The data dump of existing Parler is interesting, to say the least.

This is Jim Kiler wrote:

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

The Parler-inclined will find a new home soon enough, and ironically it will be hosted in a country they'd kill you for mentioning.

The data dump of existing Parler is interesting, to say the least.

People have always had private means of communication, so driving things back underground doesn't really change much there.

I have no issue if Amazon doesn't want to host public fora for planning violence.

Harambe wrote:

well actually wrote:

For the same reason that comcast is not allowed to cut the internet off from people who they don't agree with. These are platforms that want to be treated like publishers. For what its worth, I don't care that they are silencing conservatives, it makes room for a new player in the game that is not part of the far left tech monopoly. Gab is growing fast.

Public regulation of utilities make sense. There is lots of overhead in running wires, etc, which can make competition hard to come by.

There is effectively 0 overhead to starting a social media platform. Completely different.

Also you don't understand section 230 if you say things like "platforms treated like publishers."

Internet isn't classified as a public utility (arguably, it should be) and it should be noted that Comcast can indeed deny you service if they want, so long as it isn't purely discriminatory against protected classes.

Also, isn't Gab the one that the guy in Pittsburgh posted on and then shot up a synagogue during service? Yeah, it's probably got much better staying power. Don't forget to upload your driver's license, birth certificate, and pictures of your house and car!

We need a platform where it's OK to disagree with leftist views. The left does not want such a platform to exist, so they concoct bullshit rationalizations to ban us such as that we promote racism, "hate," violence, etc. The left is a medeival church of orthodoxy.

josiahi l Williams wrote:

To sum it up:

The Left approves of this because hurts the other team.

The Right disapproves of it because it hurts their team.

Yes, and there you are, objective, above-the-fray, and way smarter than everyone else.

People approve of this because they can see very clearly that last week was not just civil unrest. It was violent sedition and it will continue to happen this week. Armed protests will occur at every capitol. More people will die. These were necessary steps and it is the height of hypocrisy for long-time "free market" conservatives to express outrage over private businesses making decisions on their own about who to do business with and on what terms.

Look, almost nobody likes the amount of power the tech companies have over us. But that is the reality, due in no small part to conservative efforts to stifle any sort of regulation of the tech sector. Given their immense power, I am glad these tech companies have chosen to exercise a modicum of responsibility at the final hour. That doesn't change my opinion that they need a dramatic regulatory intervention and that we need to update our tax code to get at the massive amounts of wealth they are accumulating through digital advertising.

Facebook and Youtube have been two of the primary means of disseminating the most toxic Qanon BS. They are only now taking action against Trump, Qanon freaks, and Parler because they know good and well that, thanks to their complicity, an extended period of far-right terrorism is essentially inevitable at this point and they don't want to be held directly responsible for it. It is their right to do that and it will be our responsibility to strip their power from them after the coming period of Trumper terrorism has been put down.

This is Jim Kiler wrote:

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

I think you are mistaken.

This is the cure for a hoax of a virus causing havoc across the world, according to a public figure about 10 months ago.

well actually wrote:

SeattleSilver wrote:

Why should Amazon Web Services, Google, and Apple -- all of which are private companies -- be required to promote Parler's business?

For the same reason that comcast is not allowed to cut the internet off from people who they don't agree with. These are platforms that want to be treated like publishers. For what its worth, I don't care that they are silencing conservatives, it makes room for a new player in the game that is not part of the far left tech monopoly. Gab is growing fast.

You are ignoring the distinction between a provider acting as a utility and a private business offering a service in a competitive field.

trollism wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

We are full on 1984 now

Seems very cool at the moment for Trump lovers (you're not kidding anyone) to say '1984' when private businesses make business decisions.

Exactly. Trump supporters can be outraged by it and for good reason. But what is beyond doubt is that the tech companies had the right to do this. And it was Republicans who led the charge to give big tech companies these rights.

Trump voters for many years laughed and ridiculed "far left" progressive, who were the only ones pointing out that all media was being concentrated in the hands of a very few corporations. Now they are paying for it.

The Unkle wrote:

I hope so.

The ,level of censorship in America exceeds any we have faced before

Yes...I remember back in 1922 it was so easy to log on to my computer and say whatever I wanted to millions of people with out big daddy Bezos telling me it was dangerous and violent.