interesting idea wrote:
injured
If you were injured, you wouldn't have run 2 hours/day so it wouldn't help in answering the question.
Most people would improve a lot as we would be talking running 70-100mpw instead of like 30 that most 5k runners do. But your improvement would likely be less than the people running 60-90mins/day and doing some intensity.
FinJa wrote:
Running economy doesnt get better after one hour of running.
Nonsense
It doesn't have to be all easy running. If you double most days, you can run 2 hours/day and get in quality workouts without much problem.
But most people will benefit from taking one day a week either off or short on this schedule. I felt much more beat up without that easy day-- running 2 hours the day after a hard long run kind of sucks.
99% of people would run slower for 5k at 2 hours per day than 1 hour per day. That is why the pros don't run 2 hours per day to train for 5k.
Nenow ran 17 miles a day, doubles except for Sunday. Easy pace 6 minute miles, hard 5 minute miles, perhaps faster.
Ho Hum wrote:
It doesn't have to be all easy running. If you double most days, you can run 2 hours/day and get in quality workouts without much problem.
But most people will benefit from taking one day a week either off or short on this schedule. I felt much more beat up without that easy day-- running 2 hours the day after a hard long run kind of sucks.
If you can run 2 hours/day with workouts without many problems, why are you taking a day off?
M. Nenow ran 20/dx6 + 20-22/1d ... = 140mi/w = 27:20.56T & 27:22R and 13:18.54.
adsfdasfasfsafadfa wrote:
If you can run 2 hours/day with workouts without many problems, why are you taking a day off?
It's more that taking a down/rest day once a week is helpful in recovery and injury prevention, especially if you're doing intense workouts or longer races. So I guess I'm saying 2 hours a day, most days, is fine. But you don't necessarily need to slog out 2 hours the day after racing a half marathon.
my 2c wrote:
There is an important point, though. There's no law that says you have to do low mileage, or that you can only do a long run once per week. If you enjoy just getting out and running for a long time, do it more often. If you want, you can work up gradually to running 60-90 minutes every day for easy runs. You might find that you respond really well to high mileage and long runs. The off season is a great time to find out.
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Or 60, 90, 30, 60, 90, 30 etc, 2 hours occasionally.
Ho Hum wrote:
adsfdasfasfsafadfa wrote:
If you can run 2 hours/day with workouts without many problems, why are you taking a day off?
It's more that taking a down/rest day once a week is helpful in recovery and injury prevention, especially if you're doing intense workouts or longer races. So I guess I'm saying 2 hours a day, most days, is fine. But you don't necessarily need to slog out 2 hours the day after racing a half marathon.
Why do you need recovery and injury prevention when you are can run 2 hours/day with no problem? The simple answer as you point out is that few people can run 2 hours/day with no problems. They need easy days to recover from the stress of running 2 hours/day.
Another giver of +1 wrote:
my 2c wrote:
There is an important point, though. There's no law that says you have to do low mileage, or that you can only do a long run once per week. If you enjoy just getting out and running for a long time, do it more often. If you want, you can work up gradually to running 60-90 minutes every day for easy runs. You might find that you respond really well to high mileage and long runs. The off season is a great time to find out.
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Or 60, 90, 30, 60, 90, 30 etc, 2 hours occasionally.
At a high level people have to stopping trying to go to extremes. Without knowing where the OP is starting from, lets imagine he is running 60mins/day at 8 min pace (i.e. ~50mpw). Should he be thinking about bumping the mileage up to 100mpw (2 hours/day)? Of course not. Stretch say 2 of those 60 min runs out to 90 mins and run 60mpw and see what happens. Then maybe stretch one of them up to 2 hours (65mpw) and see what happens. No need to immediately jump to some extreme of trying to do 2 hours every day. And obviously in the real world you mix in 40 min easy days and workouts (i.e. maybe 40 mins tempo runs) to have a some what balance development plan..
Cam Levins was doing up to 200 mpw during 5k training
So? 90% of world class runners do less than 100MPW. Why point out the exception? Justin Knight ran 50 MPW. I guess that is optimal.
R.R. wrote:
Cam Levins was doing up to 200 mpw during 5k training
He also dropped his mileage to about 110 when he joined the Oregon project.... Lots of guys do mega mileage for a while and have success. Lot do big mile (call it 140+) for periods during a like 8 week build up and have success. Very few do 150+mpw year round and have sustained success. There are definitely some exceptions.
But until you are running 90 mins/day, don't worry about running 120mins/day.
adsfdasfasfsafadfa wrote:
Why do you need recovery and injury prevention when you are can run 2 hours/day with no problem? The simple answer as you point out is that few people can run 2 hours/day with no problems. They need easy days to recover from the stress of running 2 hours/day.
No, you're misunderstanding. In serious training, most people will benefit from an easy day regardless of whether they're running 60 min or 120.